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^^^^That's a very reasonable suggestion, especially if the OP is not too sure what he wants at a detailed spec/component level. A lot of people have had satisfactory experiences with RIA, although few consider it to be a premium quality build. The OP would have a serviceable 1911 and could enjoy it, learn how to maintain it, all while figuring out what he wants in a more heirloom quality gun.

If the OP is much more sure about the 1911 and what he desires, then I think going up in quality (e.g., DW) is the way to go.
 

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When you mentioned in an earlier post "I live an hour drive from their home base", I was wondering if you lived in the New York City area or in south Alabama. I wasn't expecting Oregon.

Ya, kinber was founded in Clackamas oregon. I just individually correlate that as the reason there's so many here. Modles I see on YouTube as harder to find are just a trip to the cabellas for me, or a stroll to the tiny gunshop downtown. Where as I've never seen a DW and springfeilds are there just not a prevalent in the bigger places.
I was hearing a bunch of people saying that the kimber K6 dasa revolver (mainly the 2 inch) was a good revolver to own if you can find it. My local cabellas had 3 at the time. And the case is full of kinber 1911s and a rock island. I dont remember any springfeilds in there. And there's a few springfeilds at a gunshop a city over.
 

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I own exactly one Kimber 1911; a Gold Match II in .45 ACP that I bought new. My friend also bought the same model after trying mine. We got the last two the dealer had and so far we're both extremely happy with them. Function has been perfect for both. I shot mine some today with no problems whatsoever. That, of course, is a sample of two and I can't speak for the experiences of others.
 

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Reading other people's experiences trying to find one, I am glad I waked into the gun shop I did, when I did, and found a Colt Classic. I doubt I would be any happier with a gun that cost twice what I paid.
 

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I'm still trying to get a classic back into my collection. (Colt 01911C?). I passed on them because I used to hate all of the writing on the slide. I still do, except for the Colt.

I'd sleeper Colt mod it a little. Novak ''Answer'' back strap, front FO sight, bobtail the hammer a little. Would be a great carry piece that way.

 

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I feel like if be paying a premium for all the extra features I may want and it wouldn't be able to grow with me.. So if the kimbers and springfeilds will hold up physically with good maintenance and care then they are preferred this time.
I have a Springfield Operator with more than 17,000 rounds through it. Trust me - the gun holds up very well to heavy use. The only real maintenance I've had to do (other than cleaning) is replacing springs - which is very cheap.
Good magazines are absolutely key to a reliable 1911 - spend the $ for quality mags.
 

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As always, lots of great responses. My opinion? Everyone's first red car should have a pony on it. Mustang, Ferrari, pick your poison. 1911s are the same. The first one needs to have a pony on it. :)
 

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Personally, I would look for a Colt, I walked into a good sized gun store a few weeks ago and they had a Govt, Commander and Defender in the case, I walked out with the O1911C Classic blue Government model. I had to make a minor adjustment to the mag catch on mine, and put in a weaker mag catch spring, but other than that I am very happy with it. I like blued guns and as a retired machinist and CNC programmer I distrust stainless steel, too many people do not understand the various alloys and don't make good choices resulting in galling between moving parts. Consider that the original Dan Wesson revolvers made in stainless steel had plated carbon steel fire control parts so they could get a better trigger pull.
I’d have to agree on the Colt..I’ve owned 2 Colt 1911’s for almost 50 years, recently acquired a new Stainless Colt Series 70 (new version) and a Colt Commander in 9mm, as well as a Colt 1911 Government Model. I have a Kimber TwoTone in 45ACP and a Taurus 1911 but I always reach for the Colts first. The only problem lately is finding Colts…Still, a Colt is always something you want to pass on and will be appreciated even if there lots of them.. Just my humble opinion…
 

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I'm looking for a 1911 that's affordable but will last a lifetime if I take care of it. I've looked at kimber custom 2, springfeild loaded selections and rock island armory. I've seen so much mixed reviews on all the brands and I want the, "pass it onto my children," kind of last. Anyone have good experience on wich brands are truly built to last and be reliable.

Edit. Sorry it's a tad long
So thanks to yall I've decided on a few and have additional questions and specifications I'll add here and in another discussion.
So I would like the 1911 to evolve with me, I could care less for physical style as much as functionality. Stainless looks really beutiful but is the same as a mat finish to me, unless there's something I don't know about advantages of one o the other (which there likely is). Im looking to buy a farm in Montana when im older and need something thats equally good at protecting me from a drugged up person to giving me a better chance against a bear, moosr, elk... (insert dangerous pissed off game here) if my primary fails. I'm only 125lbs so conceal carrying anything is difficult. With winter coming its a lot easier with my thicker jackets but summer wear won't work. Biggest deciding factor is something that I can invest my time into.
The ones I've looked at are the
Springfeild mils-pec but it's lack of changeable/ upgradable sights concern me but if a gunsmith can or will mill out sight slots for me then it's not a worry. Is it possible to get a space for a sight milled out or is there no room? The milspec is as base as it gets and can be customized one peice at a time.
Springfeild loaded. This one has some custom features I am already looking for and I could continue to upgrade it with minimal effort. It would gwt rid of the sight issue I am having with the milspec
Kimber custom stainless 2 or custome two tone. These are basically the same in my mind. Less features than the loaded allowing me to select more of my own features later but still easy to customize compared to the milspec. Also they are very avaliable for me because kimber home base is a county away from me. My only concern is the two tone I heard some saying the difrent types of metals between the frame and slide may cause problems later down the line. Can anyone confirm if that's true or not?
I've been able to go to to a gunstore and hold all the kimbers but haven't touched a springfeild yet, (still looking for it) have concerns on all of their longevity and durability because I have little experience with any of them.
I thought about the Dan Wesson and fell in love but it already has good custom features and they are awesome but lack as much room to grow with me. I feel like if be paying a premium for all the extra features I may want and it wouldn't be able to grow with me.. So if the kimbers and springfeilds will hold up physically with good maintenance and care then they are preferred this time. Next 1911 though will be a dan wesson.
Now I juat need to decide between those 4.
I sold the 2 difficult colt 1911's (I could afford) To buy a stainless Ruger SR1911 & an RIA Compact officers model.
Both are completely accurate & reliable. After some personal preference changes - I feel completely satisfied with them & feel no need to purchase other 1911's They are keepers I enjoy.
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I have a Caspian officers acp built by John jardine and a colt gold cup totally rebuilt by Wilson combat. I feel the Wilson, Ed brown, or the nighthawk is the way to go. If it’s going to be a lifetime gun that’s the way I’d go. You also want a series 70 style (not the 80) the trigger is crisper.
 

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I updated my question since you replied. I needed to clarify more. I'm less concerned about value and more looking for something that will grow with me and be upgradeable and will still be powerfully functional for my great grand children if uts taken care of. (Not a closet box gun and taken care of, but a nearly daily carry constantly shot but well taken care of.)
Buy a Dan Wesson for quality and durability. A gun put together with care and using forged parts can last well beyond your grandchildren. Buy now. They won't get cheaper. Buy the model that has the features you want. If you want a backup gun for big game, consider the 255 gr. hard cast cartridge from Buffalo Bore.
 

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Springfield Loaded is a feature rich, quality, all forged steel, US made 1911 under $1,000. Most excellent service department.

Step up to the Springfield 1911 TRP for about $1,600. This one is based off of their custom Professional Model, also all forged stainless.

When you are looking at the specs, watch for manufacturers to play word games to try to confuse you, such as listing stainless frame and forged stainless slide. Only the slide is forged. Again, watch for the word games.

I saw at least one mention of S&W in here. While they are pretty and on the lower end of your budget, I have one and have seen better slide to frame fitment on less expensive models like RIA Ultra series and Metro Arms American Classic series than I find on my S&W E-Series. That’s something you can’t fix without having a new slide custom fit to your frame. Loose fitting parts get more wear over time. If you plan on buying one for the long haul, it’s something to think about.

One more thing, think about your finishes. Things like cerakote are fairly durable but will eventually chip and leave fairly deep blemishes when it does. That’s an expensive strip and recoat process. There’s no easy way. Parkerized guns aren’t the most durable and wear the fastest but are relatively easy to refinish with stuff you can buy off Brownells. Blued guns tend to be much nicer of a finish but are not as easy to re-blue and get it done right. Stainless is timeless but not super scratch resistant. If you go this route and plan to use it often, pretty much any machined or satin finish will hide minor abrasions well. Fixing stainless is fairly straight forward, wet sand and buff, depending on how bad the damage is.
 

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Springfield Loaded is a feature rich, quality, all forged steel, US made 1911...
Try as I might, I can find nothing on the SA website stating that their Loaded pistols are "Made in the USA". Or any of their other 1911 series pistols. Perhaps I missed it. My GI model SA 1911 clearly shows that the frame was made in Brazil by Imbel. If SA has gone to US made frames, slides and parts, I would think that they'd advertise it.

I'm not knocking Springfield Armory as they sell a quality 1911 but I don't think they are "Made in the USA". Assembled, yes... but not all parts are made here.
 

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Try as I might, I can find nothing on the SA website stating that their Loaded pistols are "Made in the USA". Or any of their other 1911 series pistols. Perhaps I missed it. My GI model SA 1911 clearly shows that the frame was made in Brazil by Imbel. If SA has gone to US made frames, slides and parts, I would think that they'd advertise it.

I'm not knocking Springfield Armory as they sell a quality 1911 but I don't think they are "Made in the USA". Assembled, yes... but not all parts are made here.
All materials have been sourced in the US and they have all been made in Geneseo, IL since 2015.

“At the price of only $640, some people ask where Springfield Armory builds these pistols. The Springfield 1911 is proudly made in the U.S.A.“


“Widely regarded as the premier production 1911 in the world, the Springfield Armory TRP® is proudly crafted here in Geneseo Illinois and ready for a lifetime of service.”


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I own and have shot extensively, Colt, Kimber and Springfield 1911s over the last 20 years. My first colt gold cup, 1997, had the front sight fly off, and the ejector shoot loose. My 2016 70 series gold cup is better put together than the older gold cups but over$1500 now due to collector demand. The gold cups are too loose for bullseye pistol. So I bought a kimber custom classic, new in 1999. No issues in over 50,000 rounds except worn springs. The kimber has better accuracy than either gold cup. My Springfield mil spec had the extractor break at about 1500 rounds, the hook sheared off. The Springfield guns are not as refined (unless you spend $1500+ on a custom shop gun) but are well fitted. Springfields, Colts and Kimbers are all solid guns. I have had the best service from my Kimbers over the last 20 years of ownership.
So I would recommend a base model Kimber and lots of practice ammo.
 

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latest word is every serial number displayed ends up recorded by google or some other big tech company???
 
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