[Old Farmer]

Yes, we watched it a few episodes of it. Hammer down is what he was told to do by Alex Baldwin...

How did you wind up with the name Che, just curious..

 

[Che]

How did you wind up with the name Che, just curious..

“Che” comes from the French word “Mon Chere'”. The Vietnamese use it to describe sweets and as a term of endearment. Cajuns use it too.

See my avatar from Lee's Sandwiches? Lee's Sandwiches

 

[theraptur]

I've known some old timers that carried 1911s for decades and most were retired LE that carried on 1/2 cock. Alot are deceased now so ....dammit that mean I'm old now. Condition 1 for me.

Wait...aren't you 14??? And an underage drinker???

 

[Mello2u]

" . . . . but what bothered me the most was that he was carrying his 1911 with the hammer down. "
Which is a world better than the pistol being in his vehicle or at home.
We all have our life experiences which filtered through our faulty organic brains leave us with our preferences and tolerances; so you observed someone who was different from you (with different experiences, expectations, and abilities) and still carried a pistol.
To me that is a societal plus.

 

[Mello2u]

Condition 1 for my beloved M1911a1 and the Browning Hi-Power.

Even if there is an after market thumb safety for the Hi-power (because the stock thumb safety is inoperable with just a thumb) there is no way I would ever choose to carry it over my 1911 in 45acp or 10mm.

 

[typ240]

he should carry it correctly..

 

[Kevin Rohrer]

I won't open carry, I don't want to be the first victim. It's extremely rare my holster will briefly peek out but there are times no matter how I sit someone like us could tell the butt has that slight poke in my shirt. Your everyday Joe or sockermom is oblivious though.

^^This^^

Ohio is now a Constitutional carry state. Carry open (as citizens have always been able to do), carry concealed, carry w/ a CCW permit, carry without. But just because you can carry open, does not mean you should. Discretion is always better, and safer.

Our County Fair adopted a policy of allowing weapons into the Fair, and I talked to a couple guys last year who were openly carrying. They were not an issue.

Who was an issue were the retards who showed-up with swords and waved them around in an attempt to show-off to their friends. Idiots like this ruin it for everyone. I will be recommending to the Fair Board Directors that they ban edged-weapons over 5".

 

[Che]

Actually the 1911 was designed to have the hammer thumbed back as it was drawn.
Check out the 1905 and 1910 models if you don't believe what JMB intended.

Just because later doctrine espouses condition one doesn't mean condition two is wrong.

Browning designed two versions for military trials, an internal hammer & an external hammer.
The Army preferred an external hammer that could be de-cocked manually and be obvious at a glance what condition (cocked/un-cocked) it was in.
The manual thumb safety was NOT a part of the initial design, it was added later at the request of the Cavalry branch for greater safety in battle on a horse.

The Army did not allow routine carry cocked & locked. That came along much later with Cooper in the late 1950s & early 1960s.
It IS the most action-ready method of carry, but it was NOT designed initially for it.
Those who say "Browning intended it to be carried C&L" have no factual basis for that statement.

 

[Che]

Even if there is an after market thumb safety for the Hi-power (because the stock thumb safety is inoperable with just a thumb) there is no way I would ever choose to carry it over my 1911 in 45acp or 10mm.

Incorrect, that is a Training Issue. I got 50,000+ rounds down range with my BHP. I used it in various competitions, carried it off duty as a LEO and still carry it now occasionally. It has served me well for 40+ years.

 

[Earth Pig]

Condition one or not? You do you and I'll do me. I'm comfortable carrying the beloved 1911a1, the BHP, and the H&K Compact .45 USP in condition one.

The thumb safety on my T-series BHP works just fine. If yours doesn't, get it fixed.

 

[jr24]

He drew while standing still at a shotgun already pointed at his direction from a distance of about 5 yards and got shot as soon as criminal realized what the guy was trying to do. Barely any chance from any concealment but definitely not from sob or C3.

Yeah, even a sub second AWIB draw was probably going to still result in him getting shot. Sad day all around there.

As to the OP. I’m always on the lookout for other CCW users but, unless I knew them, I certainly wouldn’t say a darned thing about their style or choices, I have no idea about their training or preferences.

I have noted, that those I do manage to spot are always either the “I don’t really care” 3-330 OWB with a fair size gun or the AIWB untucked guys who don’t seem to realize what looks good standing still from the front doesn’t translate to reaching for groceries, or walking in the wind or sitting down.

Then again maybe they don’t care either.

 

[Cosmopolitan]

Even if there is an after market thumb safety for the Hi-power (because the stock thumb safety is inoperable with just a thumb) there is no way I would ever choose to carry it over my 1911 in 45acp or 10mm.

To each his own, but I used a BHP for years(in govt) and it was a fine pistol, with 13 +1 rds, and shot extremely well. Brits ,Aussie and SA SAS used them for years and were very competent with them.

 

[Cosmopolitan]

Condition one or not? You do you and I'll do me. I'm comfortable carrying the beloved 1911a1, the BHP, and the H&K Compact .45 USP in condition one.

The thumb safety on my T-series BHP works just fine. If yours doesn't, get it fixed.

There are several safeties for the BHP that are excellent. It is a fine pistol, IMHO

 

[Cosmopolitan]

Incorrect, that is a Training Issue. I got 50,000+ rounds down range with my BHP. I used it in various competitions, carried it off duty as a LEO and still carry it now occasionally. It has served me well for 40+ years.

correct. There are many excellent safeties that can be used on a BHP. The BHP is a fine pistol!

 

[jimh406]

I don't think tattoo means former military, but that being said, there are plenty of people who were in the military that seemed to learn nothing while there.

It's hard to say why the person was carrying with the hammer down. Maybe he was frantic getting kids dressed and forgot to chamber a round. Who knows?

I wouldn't personally carry a 1911 with the hammer down. As far as intended by Browning, that doesn't really matter. Over a 100 years carrying cocked and locked and shooting sports as cocked and locked would have been found to be obviously wrong if it was.

Browning also created a single action (BHP) with a magazine disconnect after the 1911. Are we supposed to believe that all 1911s should have a magazine disconnect added?

I have to say it can be entertaining spotting those carrying. I find grocery stores to be a great place for that activity. In my area, you'll probably lose count on a busy day.

 

[tamartin98]

LDA 1911's have the hammer down even when ready to fire. It is double action once the slide is racked.

 

[mercman1972]

Well, I've been an LEO for over 30 years and have been CCW for over 40 years. My habit is to atuomatically check everyone visually for tells that they are carrying a firearm, knife or impact weapon. It's just my habit to routinely scan anyone I meet head to toe.

Remember, you're not paranoid if someone is really a danger to you.

BTW, my EDC is a Glock 19 now that my duty weapon is a Glock Model 45 with optics. I don't shoot either as well as one of my 1911's but they both have lots of rounds. As an LEO the thinking is that I may face mutliple adversaries. I practice my save reloads though.

 

[keith44spl]

Long story short....

I once work with a 'detective' (I use that term purty loosely concerning this guy)
He absolutely hate the sight of my cocked & locked 1911, he bitch'd and complained
incessantly to me and everyone that was in ear-shot.

So, instead of listening to his daily rants...
I switched to my Para 7.45 LDA cocked & locked with the hammer down.

///

 

[Ektarr]

^^This^^

Ohio is now a Constitutional carry state. Carry open (as citizens have always been able to do), carry concealed, carry w/ a CCW permit, carry without. But just because you can carry open, does not mean you should. Discretion is always better, and safer.

Our County Fair adopted a policy of allowing weapons into the Fair, and I talked to a couple guys last year who were openly carrying. They were not an issue.

Who was an issue were the retards who showed-up with swords and waved them around in an attempt to show-off to their friends. Idiots like this ruin it for everyone. I will be recommending to the Fair Board Directors that they ban edged-weapons over 5".

Just a Note:
TRUE "Constitutional Carry" is NOT just another law, which gives you "permission" to carry without a license. Such a law can be repealed at any time should the winds of politics change!
TRUE Constitutional Carry is the repeal and/or abolition of any and all existing laws which infringe upon...or even address...the Right recognized under the Second Amendment. Nothing less will suffice!
Of course, that's just my opinion, and I can see...specially along this thread...that opinions are ubiquitous and vary widely. You may not agree..."YMMV" as they say. But as long as we're slingin' opinions around I thought I'd share mine.
😎👍

 

[jeffrey.coopersr]

Even if open carry was legal in Florida (it's note), I'd still carry concealed. I'm not in to advertising.

With that said, if you accidently expose a firearm, and someone calls the cops about an "Armed man in Publix", that puts me in danger, and I could be arrested. So, I'm behind open carry to project me.