For years I have used "Hoppes Bench Rest Oil With Weater Guard" for wiping down my guns. This oil is very thin and comes in a black bottle while the regular Hoppes oil comes in a orange bottle and has a higher viscosity. Some one told me it was the same oil as the orange bottle just thinned down. Black bottle states "lubbricating oil with weather guard". I have tried some of the wonder lubes and the one I like best is FP-10 but I have read the formula has been changed. I also have used Bench Rest oil in hard to reach places. A friend of mine has dicovered S&W oil with some sort of fancy lub substance called Cerflon. I worry about any lube you have to shake before using. Has any one out there ever used the old Hoppes oil with weather guard? The old time oils are not as expensive as some of the newer super oils. Thanks for any information you are willing to share.