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While it seems to defy logic, as a licensed CCW resident of Wisconsin, I can attest to this mindset. We just got our provision +18 months ago.

While we now have over 200,000 people licensed to carry, here in Madison you routinely hear the mantra, "Why do you need a weapon/gun?"

Of course, everyone admits that the food courts of our local malls are drug markets.

My first thought was that even communist Wisconsin has a "castle doctrine." I assume that this municipality does not. That concerns me, because we do not have the SYG enhancement to the CCW provision.
 

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Intresting situation. I dont know if deadly force was called upon. Even in Texas that shooting would raise questions.

When a guy who was living with your wife when you were gone and may have had some type of relationship shows up at the front door and you answer the door armed and shoot him in the chest... I hope he never texted or said out loud "Next time I see him I will deal with/kill/take care of Green".

It was not a stranger, it was a person they knew, unless Green has a violent past, calling 911 might have been better, or as other adults were there, wait to be assulted, then take what action you need to.

Honestly its an odd case that seems to be missing a lot of needed info. I can see where a DA might bring charges based on the Green family. I would hope that the DA presented the case to a Grand Jury. One more reason I like Texas over other states that let DA's run wild.
 

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Honestly its an odd case that seems to be missing a lot of needed info.
And I would agree. It seems pretty cut and dried considering the aggressor was asked to leave and responded by kicking in the door. He'd have been shot at my house for that behavior.

Something is amiss. It might not even be the homeowner. Does anyone know if the DA is up for election this session?
 

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This could've been me. I shot an intruder in the knee to stop his advance. I was informed later I could've been sued by said intruder and that a dead man can't sue.

I'm at a loss for words.

What rights do home owners have to defend themselves anymore?
 

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What rights do home owners have to defend themselves anymore?
I was told by the sworn officers of the Sun Prairie Police Department that unless posted a known stalker can legally walk right up to my front door.
 

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This is not a clear case of home invasion because the intruder was not a stranger and was a frequent visitor. Even in Florida, you would probably be charged unless the intruder committed (or attempted to commit) a violent felony. The Castle Doctrine would not apply. Instead, the case hinges on self defense in fear of imminent death or serious injury. It goes to trial, but the prosecution must prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that it was NOT self defense.
 

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This is not a clear case of home invasion because the intruder was not a stranger and was a frequent visitor. Even in Florida, you would probably be charged unless the intruder committed (or attempted to commit) a violent felony. The Castle Doctrine would not apply. Instead, the case hinges on self defense in fear of imminent death or serious injury. It goes to trial, but the prosecution must prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that it was NOT self defense.

This is the correct analysis in most states even those that are considered pro-gun. Wearing a bulky shirt is very questionable as a reasonable cause of fear of imminent death. Now if he had an object in his hand or was making verbal threats, that would be reasonable..........
 

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Call me a skeptic :D but when sites like ones called "Uncle Sams Misguided Children" start running a 2 month old story in the spirit that they are, there's more to it and/or there's more they're trying to get out of it.

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2013/09/15/glen-burnie-man-charged-in-shooting-death-at-home/

I'm with several comments above..... this isn't a typical invasion or break in situation, it's much more complex and probably any LEO's worse kind of call, a domestic situation.

There's a reason I never go by stories from sites like that without taking a few minutes with Google to find something more. It also appears they may be using it now, 2 months and a hefty loan or 2, to get some financial help for them.
 

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This is not a clear case of home invasion because the intruder was not a stranger and was a frequent visitor. Even in Florida, you would probably be charged unless the intruder committed (or attempted to commit) a violent felony. The Castle Doctrine would not apply. Instead, the case hinges on self defense in fear of imminent death or serious injury. It goes to trial, but the prosecution must prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that it was NOT self defense.
Even more complex, nit just a visitor, a long time friend who had lived there for a while....not to mention got a little attached to Momma.
 

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Wearing a bulky shirt is very questionable as a reasonable cause of fear of imminent death.
I politely disagree. Sometimes it's the only warning you get.

Back when men were men, a stranger wandered into our bar all by himself wearing a drover coat--like in The Matrix. One of our club enforcers noticed a gearshift lever wear mark on his left boot toe.

About nine guys made sure they knew what he was doing at all times.

Paranoid? Not in the least. A few years later one of our members was shot and killed by a member of a rival gang.

Sometimes "an odd thing out of place" is the only warning you'll ever get.
 

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Even in Florida, you would probably be charged unless the intruder committed (or attempted to commit) a violent felony.
You sure about that? I'm pretty sure in Florida, you kick a guys door down and enter and it pretty much doesn't matter, if your name ain't on that lease and you don't have a legal right to be inside that structure, you're subject to getting shot legally. It doesn't really matter if you've known the guy since kindergarten.
 

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If this is true you'd think it would be clear cut regardless of whether or not he had previously been a guest.

The only thing that would make it bad for them would be if he was on the lease, had property in the house or some sort of other legal reason to access the premises.
 

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A later news report based on what police released two days later

A Glen Burnie homeowner shot a man to death on his front porch police said.
Officers were called to 424 Arbor Drive around 1:55 a.m. Sunday for a report of a shooting. When officers arrived they found a dead body on the front porch. Officers learned that the victim was shot by the homeowner.
An investigation revealed the shooter, identified as Matthew Martin Pinkerton, and the victim knew each other. Police said Pinkerton shot the victim, Kendall Arnaz Green, 25, at some point after he was allowed in the home.
 

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Another news report... O'Neill is Pinkerton's defense lawyer.

Pinkerton, who is in the Air Force, suspected his wife was having an affair last year while he was on a work assignment in Korea, police said.
Pinkerton returned early from his Korea assignment and, upon entering his residence, found Green there with his wife, police said.
Jessica Pinkerton denied the allegations, police said. She would not comment on Monday.
O’Neill described the relationship between Jessica Pinkerton and Green as a “friendship.” When Jessica Pinkerton tried to end the relationship, Green continued to pursue it, O’Neill said.
Green and Matthew Pinkerton had at least one previous altercation, O’Neill said.
 

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I'm originally from that out of control, socialist state. The Governor is the worst possible example of a flaming liberal that exists. He'll be running against Hillary, or possibly on her ticket at some point. Heaven help us if they get in.
 

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Out of control socialist state and flaming liberal governor or not, as the rest of the story comes to light I'd say this young man is in serious deep trouble.

"Pinkerton, who is in the Air Force, suspected his wife was having an affair last year while he was on a work assignment........."

"When officers arrived they found a dead body on the front porch...."

I'm pretty sure that crime lab can find if the guy was shot inside the house or outside on the porch.....All it takes is to be proven that he lied in any fashion on how the shooting happened and his story is nullified.

The brother who was at the house at the time of the shooting said Pinkerton shot the man (Green) 'inside' his house.




Sir Walter Scott.....Oh! what a tangled web we weave.
 

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Is there any sign of forced entry? "Broke the door in" is what it said in the article.

Purely speculation here, but would you go over to someones house, having had and affair with the owners significant other, if only in your own mind, and not expect at least an arse kickin. And then to barge in and demand something, this guy might not have been the most "stable" if you know where I'm going with this. The owner may have known this person previously and that is what could have sparked an even greater fear of an "event".
 
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