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Since 2018 we've had a slew of bad gun laws on the books in WA, starting with I-1639 (approved by voters) which among many things makes gun owners liable if their firearms are not secured and they end up in the wrong hands. A Snohomish County man might be the first to be charged under this new law if he can't give a good explanation to the police as to how a Glock he owned somehow got lost or stolen, and weeks later was used in a fatal school shooting.

 

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Sounds like it sucks to live in Wa and yeah since it was a school shooting instead of normal street thug crime they will probably ruin the former owners life over it.
But tell me something. If he reported it as lost in time and says he had it in a lock box or similar is he ok or what?
My understanding of the law is, if it was secured in a lock box that was broken into, and the owner reported it to the police within 5 days of discovering it then he's off the hook. But if it was simply in a sock drawer and one of his kids' friends found it and took it he's in trouble.
 
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Does the WA state define reasonable standards of gun storage?
Nope. No specific requirements. It's up to the prosecutor to decide if it was secure enough.
 

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Once Upon A Time...

Up North in MI, a gent kept getting his cottage burgled. He decided to leave only his old war surplus rifle there, but not the ammo for it..

As you'd expect the same morons broke in (again), and this time found the rifle and ammo and swiped it all.

Cops arrested him, and I believe he was sent up for "manslaughter" and "negligence" - because the freakin' thieves stuck the wrong stolen ammo up the wrong stolen rifle and it blew up in their face.

Yup, they blamed the home-owner.

Shizzle like this is why I figure yer further ahead not even trying to be nice.
Any sort of entrapment is illegal. Booby-trapping your house, arming yourself and waiting for the bad guys to show up, etc will get you into trouble. Store owners have done both of those and ended up in jail over it.
 
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Not sure Kyle and Littlefield's deaths are relevant to this discussion. They made the fatal mistake of taking a deeply troubled man who they could see was "straight up nuts" (their own words) to the range to shoot firearms, and then both turned their backs on him. I would never take someone with serious issues to the range, but if I were somehow forced to do so he would NEVER see my back!
 
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