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Your walking through a parking lot when you notice a small child in a hot car. The child is obviusly hot. Bust the windows out and get the kid and wait or keep walking or call 911 or what? Your thoughts please.

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I live in Texas where we have a law about children being unattended in a car but even with this law we have had no less than 3 deaths due to this this summer alone. As you probally know the inside of a parked car can become very hot >150 degree in a short peroid of time. So with that being said I would probally yell for help we need a witness you know, very rapidly explaine what the situation is and then strike a side or rear window with a hard object(they break easer than the windshield) also call 911 for pd and an ambulance. Then get ready for the law suit from the abusive parants.
 

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Well in my town that is considered a "hot" call and handled code 2 (blues and sirens). Get the PD and the Ambulance enroute and then bust opposite side window from the child.
 

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Roger that. Call 9-1-1 on the cell phone and get the car open. DON'T, however, do the same thing if it's a DOG instead of a kid. Many years ago, I was present at a nasty altercation that started over a dispute about a dog being left in a car. It isn't worth it for a dog...especially someone else's dog.

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The only thing I would add (as a former firefighter EMT) is to consider the path of the glass as you break it. You don't want to be sending fragments into the face of the child your are trying to assisit.


Child in the front seat use a back window visa versa etc.........

The side windows are the choice for sure, a sharp object struck in a lower corner will spider web the glass intact which can be pushed in genlty, making a fist sized opening and the remainder can be pulled out toward you.
Much safer for any occupant of the vehicle.

There are common tools that will accomplish this (of which I will not list publically) if you are on close terms with a FF or LEO they will know. They can decide to tell you or not. I'm just not going post publicly methods of silently taking out automotive side glass...........sorry


A blunt object to the glass will send fragments all over the inside of the vehicle.

I understand that you may not always have a tool available to accomplish the above and at that time you'll just have to do your best.

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I agree, bust the window. While your at it, look for those "Baby on Board" signs in other car windows. Don't look for a child, just break the windows! Hurry, a childs safety is at stake. There may even be 40-50 cars with the "Baby on Board signs", so get busy! We can't even afford to loose one child.


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If the child is not suffocating right before your eyes and you've got a few seconds, try the door handles first eh? But otherwise, yup - break that glass.
 

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Originally posted by Electric_Armadillo:
I agree, bust the window. While your at it, look for those "Baby on Board" signs in other car windows. Don't look for a child, just break the windows.
Anything that is "for the children" is a good idea. You can't afford to take a chance that the child might be hiding somewhere in the car, so breaking a window right away is really what is required to be socially responsible. That is probably a good justification for carrying around an ASP baton; "I need it in case I have to break a car window to save a suffocating heat stricken child."
 

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While we're on the subject of child endangerment, what about the adults that leave the car running? As soon as the adult is out of sight, the kids start playing and jumping from seat to seat. It only takes a moment to bump that shift lever.....


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ROSCO, Sorry to disagree with you but yes an animal or dog is worth it! no you dont have to have a personal altercation but moraly you call it to in so P.D. can respond and call animal control if nessesary. it is proven that with alot of animal curelty cases the same person abuses the child or spouse.
 

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But what if I'm eating a hamburger and wearing leather shoes when I spot the panting pooch? You are entitled to your opinion, but there is no way that the life and welfare of an animal can or ought be equated with that of a human. Call it in? Sure. Take direct action? Not me.

I like most animals...some as pets, some as fauna, some medium rare and others slathered in barbeque sauce or battered and deep-fried.
My Dad and my father-in-law are still alive because of heart bypass surgery. Much of the research on this procedure was done on dogs. I am pleased and grateful that human lives were more highly valued than canine lives in this endeavor.

I'm not suggesting that you ascribe to the radical and insane "a boy is a dog is a pig is a rat" philosophy of the lunatic animal "rights" fringe. I'm just staking out my position as clearly as I can.

We can both agree that neglect and cruelty are bad things. We should care for our pets properly and attempt to kill cleanly when hunting.

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Electricarmadillo, common sense in these matters is a good thing, however, if you want to see the Marine in me come to the fore endanger a child or animal within my view. The result will be definitive. There have been many children here in Florida who have died a horrible death in over-heated vehicles. Some idiots car window means nothing to me compared to the life of an innocent. If it turns out to be my bad, I'll pay the cosequences. Ray Rinehart
 

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I work in a car dealership. One of our mechanics was working on th ac in a new vehicle. Outside temp 90. Inside temp 180!!! This is in new jersey. I cant imagine what its like in arizona or texas.
 

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Okay, now which 1911 model would you use to take this glass out?

Just kidding. This is a serious issue, and that window must come out, but agreeably with a witness and with concern for where the glass fragments are going. The local news here did a report on hot cars. It took less than six minutes for a car to shoot from about 90 degrees up to 120 in an enclosed car.

Kids, dogs, rabbits, whatever. This is NOT cool(in more than one way).
 

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Originally posted by shane45:
I work in a car dealership. One of our mechanics was working on th ac in a new vehicle. Outside temp 90. Inside temp 180!!! This is in new jersey. I cant imagine what its like in arizona or texas.
Sound like he wasn't too good of a mechanic! He had the heat on instead. ;> )
 

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Hot day, hot car, hot child inside? That sounds like an emergency to me. How many of you would find witnesses before performing CPR, the heimlich, or similar emergency.

One of the dumbest announcement I ever heard was in a grocery store where some 'concerned' citizen had the manager announce that a child was locked in a hot car and did not appear to be conscious. So the concerned citizen took the time to assess the situation, memorize the make, model, color, and license, and had an announcement similar to what you would do if the lights were left on.

I think people fail to see the danger, but a hot car will kill just like a car on fire, only there are no visible flames. If a kid is in a hot car, locked in, and unresponsive, now it NOT the time to have the manager make an announcement in the store.

By the way, johnnybravo, in Texas you can recieve a ticket for leaving keys in a car that is running. The don't issue them very often from what I can see. Here in North Texas, even the cops sometimes leave the car on so the AC can run while they are in getting a Slurpee.
 

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Originally posted by airborne420:
Your walking through a parking lot when you notice a small child in a hot car. The child is obviusly hot. Bust the windows out and get the kid and wait or keep walking or call 911 or what? Your thoughts please.

I would not keep walking.
Call 911. Assess the situation. Is the child unconcious? In dire distress? Give the details to the 911 operator and ask if you should bust the window. PD is going to be there in a few minutes at most. Unless it is absolutely an emergency let the PD bust the glass or slim jim the door.
As to breaking the glass, a nail punch pushed against the glass will break it pretty easy. But, how many of us carry nail punches?
 
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