Thanks! I really appreciate you going out of your way and giving it a go. I was hoping perhaps someone had tried before and could provide some feedback from their experiment. I did not expect someone to try it for me. Wow that's pretty cool! Thanks again for the help. BTW between your Ultra and Pro which do you perfer?I tried your experiment for you with the slide of a CDP Pro II and the frame of an Ultra CDP II. Not even within the realm of possibility - sorry.