[Patrickl]

I CAN FEEL THE FLAMES OF PERDITION NOW, but here goes.

The very type of incident that you are talking about is one of the reasons California requires that people pass a written test, or has a safety course completion card before they can buy a gun. It's also one of the reasons that California will soon require a practical demonstration of skill before someone buys a gun.

This doesn't mean that I believe that the California solution is good it just means that part of the reason for the existence of such laws is because of episodes like you experienced.

I think I would have stuck around and helped her out more. Who knows, you could be saving a life. I go to a local range three times a week after I get off duty. I am in uniform and I end up helping a bunch of newbies, who gravitate to me because I am a cop and I know what the hell I am doing. It’s fun and very satisfying to see how people react when their shooting improves and they learn how to do things quickly and safely.

 

[Patrickl]

Originally posted by James P:
Patrick,

California's laws have nothing to do with gun safety and everything to do with a political agenda. Very few of us aren't clever enough to figure that out.

Some is certainly political, however those that push for such measures point to negligent handling incidents as reasons for the need for such laws. It doesn't matter whether such incidents are statistically significant or not.

When it happens it happens and it is fodder for more restrictions.

 

[Patrickl]

Originally posted by BOLANTEJ:
california does require testing for purchasing a firearm, but not for renting one. if she didn't even know how to chamber a round she probably didn't even own it. at my range they barely even check id. kinda scary. i had a couple of people next to me one day that would start laughing and howling every time a shot went off. kinda made me think of a couple of four year olds. they even chambered one before even approaching the firing line. some people just aren't cut out for the responsibility involved. God help us all when we go to the range.

Yep, you just never know what you are going to run into on a private range that rents. We had someone blow his brains out at the local range here.

I have to admit that the range here is very tough on checking guns. I was in after duty last night and they sent a guy packing for having a loaded mag in his shooting bag next to the gun. It's against the law here in Calilifornia to have a loaded mag next to the gun.

The owner knows I am a cop but when I come in for a session in civilian clothing there's no exception for me either. He checks my guns, mags, and ID.

 

[Patrickl]

Originally posted by BOLANTEJ:
are you talking about the pavillion gun range in stockton? i go there, and the same thing happened. please don't tell me this is a normal occurence.

No, I am not speaking of the Pavillion, but as of late in the SF Bay Area it seems that suicide by range rental gun has become a popular method of departing mortality. Seems that suicide by cop is even more popular.