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going to experiment a bit with cast 230 gr. LRN from midway in my .45acp . does anyone have a pet recipe using red dot ? what velocity do you get in your 5 " barrel?..thanks
 

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I use 4.0 grains @ 1.24 OAL, very mild and damn accurate. I've shot up to 5.3gr of red dot and haven't noticed any real pressure problems.
 

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I agree with Shane45-1911.

I've loaded several thousand rounds of 230g lrn over 5.0g of Red Dot.

It is a nice practice load and should be just what you are looking for.

FYI-(Gives me about 820 fps in my well-worn Colt.)

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i'm starting to wonder how alliant came up with 810 fps with 4.0 grains. i realize loads will vary some from gun to gun, but this is more than " some"...
 

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Red Dot & 230 Grain LRN

Load:

.45 ACP
230 gr. H&G #34 LRN
4.7 Red Dot
WWLP Primers
WW Cases
Vel. @ 10 feet: 785 FPS
Purpose: IPSC Major & Hardball equivalent

.45 ACP
200 Gr. H&G 68 LSWC
4.0 Red Dot
WWLP Primers
WW Cases
Vel: @ 10 Feet 800 FPS
Purpose: Practice load

Note: Hits the same point of aim at 20 yards as the 230 grain
above. Functions with 18.5 lb. spring.

Bonus: I use bullet type to label the load, that is all 230 grain
RNL are 4.7 Red dot and all 200 grain SWCL are 4.0 Red Dot.

Check published data sources before following using these loads.
 

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R McLANEY, you get reliable cycling with an 18.5 spring? Wow!

I thought I was pushing my luck using the factory recoil spring with the 4.0/200gr load.

What's your OAL on those two loads?

Jeff
 

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My very first 45 ACP hand load was 5g of Red Dot behind a 225g cast RN. I shot that load for a couple years before switching to the H&G #68, 200g SWC and 5.2g of Red Dot. Both made major in early IPSC (would you believe on a Ballistic Pendulum).
 

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Red Dot!

Jeff C.

Yes, the 4.0 Red Dot/200 H&G 68 cycle reliably in a very smooth cycling 80's vintage Wilson/Colt Master Grade. I don't know the overall length measurement - I just set the load to match WW Hardball Length.

I believe the 230gr LRN and 4.7 Red Dot load was mentioned in an article about training loads used at Jeff Cooper's Gunsite training facility - again back in the 80's.

The main bonus to using the H&G 68 for practice loads and the H&G 34 style bullets is load identification. Even if I dumped all my loaded ammo out in one pile, the loads could be sorted out without a doubt as to the load used.

That these two loads shoot to the same POA in my gun with my hold is just happy coincidence.

Frankly, I started using Red Dot back in the 80's when a local shop went out of business and I bought two eight pound kegs very cheaply. It worked out very well and I have stayed with Red Dot since for .45 Acp, .38 Special, and 12 bore target loads.
 

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Red Dot- .45ACP

I chronographed these from a 5" Kimber.
230gr. Penn RNL
4.7gr. Red Dot
1.250 OAL
TZZ brass
WLP
837 FPS

230gr. Penn RNL
5.0gr. Red Dot
1.250 OAL
TZZ brass
WLP
893 FPS

185gr.LSWC
5.5gr. Red Dot
1.250 OAL
990 FPS

4.4gr. Red Dot
230 LRN
1.250 OAL
785 FPS

Colt MK IV Ser.70 Govt
200gr. SWCL
5.0gr.Red Dot
TZZ brass
WLP
842fps

230 BullX RNL
4.8gr.Red Dot
1.272 OAL
Midway brass
WLP
843fps

230 BullX RNL
5.0gr. Red Dot
878fps

230 BullX
4.5gr, Red Dot
798fps

Keoni
 

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Different lots of powder=velocity variation

What can I say,

Maybe I have a slower lot of RED DOT.

Maybe my barrel is a slow one!

Chronographs, temperature and lighting conditions differ.

4.7 Red Dot is a good load for 230 RNL - we agree!
 
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