I brought the Remington R1 Carry made in Ilion NY home with me today. My dealer had one left from the special deal he got from his supplier. He gave me fifty bucks off the 589 price tag since I missed the rebate from Remington, I thought that was pretty good deal. I just finished cleaning and I am real impressed with this R1, the fit and finish is excellent, no tool marks anywhere, slide to frame fit is tight and slick as glass. I have two Kimbers a Custom II and Stainless Target II, the R1 is as nice as either, and I like my Kimbers. If the same features were on the Kimber that the R1 has it would be pushing a thousand bucks, and if shoots as good as either Kimber I'll be a happy ol geezer!