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Rogue Bullet Questions

You guys ever heard of Dragon Tail exploding ammo ???

Also are firing tracers in a pistol bad??
Not sure if it burns really hot or how that works.

This guy was blabbing on and on about it, so I wanted to talk to the experts :))
 

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Never heard of it.

I think some tracers have chemicals in it that can be corrosive so I would just clean really carefully after firing. They may be harder on the barrel I dont know.
 

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So they do make tracers for pistols??
 

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Its just weird , I think dude is full of ****. So I am just trying to talk to some experts or people with a round bit of knowledge.. Of which you are one MUS.
 

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Im sure there are some kind of explosive bullet schemes and tracer bullets out there to be had. I just dont see what the advantage of them would be.
 

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What type of licensing would you need to own exploding tipped bullets?

And what type of charge would it be, I mean what would the shelf life be?
 

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I dont know that its required that you have a license. I have heard of various rediculous things like mercury tipped bullets, bullets with magnesium in them but I dont know that they have ever come up with something that works well otherwise I think more people would be using them, particularly the military or law enforcement.

It sounds like somone just BSing you.

I know they have shells for shotguns that will shoot up a certain distance and then explode for scaring birds and what not.
 

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About twenty years ago I remember seeing a brand of ammunition called "Exploders". They were a hollow point that had a primer glued in the hollow cavity. The primer was supposed to cause the bullet to expand more. Must not have gone over to well, especially in court.
 

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Thanks BOB!!

And MUS as always you rule. :rock:
 

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Any of the tracers I have ever seen have been corrosive, but this something I have never paid much attention to. I have never seen it in a Pistol round.
 

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Hornady used to make a tracer-like round called Vector Illuminated Trajectory in several handgun calibers. I've never used it though, and have no experience with the other brands named.
 

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Every time I go to a gun show including the one last Saturday, there is at least one vendor selling "Tracer" pistol rounds. I have seen them in 9mm and 45ACP but have never been bumb enough or curious enough to purchase them.

MadDog :cool:
 

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Maddog what do you think the problems related to bullet tracers are ??
 

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Naturalselector -

I don't know if there are any problems related to "Tracer" ammo. I just haven't been curious enough to spend the money. Don't remember the exact cost but I do remember they were very expensive. I would think that whatever they coat the bullet with to give it a noticable glowing trail would be very corrosive.

Just my .02
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Tracers in pistol rounds are available, but you can also encounter WWII tracer rounds and both the trace compound and the primer are very corrosive.

The Vector ammunition did not have the problem that conventional designed tracers had with harming barrels, since they contained the trace eliment in the center of the bullet and burned inwards and if I remember right they also reduced the fire hazard potential. Not the case with conventional tracers.

I have heard of the practice of putting tracers into a magazine (rifle) 1 at 10 rounds, 1 at 15 and the last 3 or having the last 5 be tracers as a heads up of an immenent magazine depletion.

Most ranges do not allow the use of tracers, because of the fire hazard.


I have seen the Dragons Fire shotgun shells and the effect was impressive, but other than for fun, the potential hazards outweigh any conceivable advantage, that I could possible come up with.

Exploding bullets...If the impact is enough to detonate the bullet, the forces exerted on the bullet and initiator upon firing must be considered as well. What if quality control was lacking on that particular day?I also imagine the amount of explosive compound that one could put into a bullet of conventional design and for it to reliably ignite, probably presents a feat of engineering excellence that would be cost prohibitive for other than government work.

For the cost of most of this ammunition and the limited application aspects inherent in specialised ammmunition, I'll have to pass on it.
 

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There are various lots of recent military tracer pistol ammunition - I have some 9x19mm ... somewhere ... as it happens. If I had it to hand I could say what it is; I think it is Austrian if I remember correctly, but I have not tried it out yet either. I have also seen various varieties of other tracer for pistol, revolver and rifles; but I have to say that I'd be reluctant to buy it - it is usually very expensive and loaded by what are to me some pretty obscure commercial makers.
 

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Whats the utility of it? Signal purposes? I wouldnt think it would be that useful even for a submachinegun because of how fast they wind up empty.
 

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I picked up the latest Guns and Weapons for Law Enforcement today and they had an article on what was essentially a miniature flash/bang grenade loaded into a 12 gauge shell. If I remember correctly, it was a Dragon something or other.
 
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