[1911crazy]

With the sanctions just lifted on china and with the exceptance of sporting arms being imported soon I wonder if we will see any new norinco 1911a1's?? I'm not sure what sporting arms covers.

 

[98_1LE]

I hope this allows Norc's back in. I want a 9mm 1911 Norinco badly.

 

[dsk]

Where did you hear that the Clinton executive order has been lifted? AFAIK the ban on weapons and ammunition was permanent, while there were other restrictions in place that were sue to sunset around this time.

You might want to read this: http://www.1911forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77146

 

[WalterGC]

FWIW, Executive Orders, by their very nature, are never permanent. They are only as permanent as the term of the Prez who made the order. I don't know whether the order has been rescinded, but all it would take would be the stroke of a pen.

My oldest son just returned from two weeks in China, trying to drum up some business. Maybe he snuck a coupla Norincos back in his luggage!

 

[technosavant]

I think the President would need to vacate Clinton's Executive Order.

However, I have precious little trust that Bush would do this. While he hasn't fought for antigun legislation, he hasn't exactly been a strong 2A supporter; it is almost as though his attitude is "Whatever Congress wants as far as 2A/gun control is fine with me." He hasn't tried to own that issue, and it would need to be a very progun President to rescind that order. Anybody who tries will be met not only by the usual antigun rhetoric, but also by those playing the human rights card.

 

[dsk]

FWIW, Executive Orders, by their very nature, are never permanent. They are only as permanent as the term of the Prez who made the order.

They are permanent until actually rescinded by a future administration.

 

[The Big D]

I think the President would need to vacate Clinton's Executive Order.

However, I have precious little trust that Bush would do this. While he hasn't fought for antigun legislation, he hasn't exactly been a strong 2A supporter; it is almost as though his attitude is "Whatever Congress wants as far as 2A/gun control is fine with me." He hasn't tried to own that issue, and it would need to be a very progun President to rescind that order. Anybody who tries will be met not only by the usual antigun rhetoric, but also by those playing the human rights card.

And those playing the human rights card would have a point... while I LOVE guns, I'm not sure I could bring myself to support communist china to get one. Especially when there are plenty of great american 1911s.

 

[Jim V]

I can hear the screaming and crying now that would come from the Brady Bunch if Clinton's E/O was recinded. Of course if it was recinded at the same time Duyba signs the anti lawsuit bill we'd have a whole bunch of them have their blood pressure jump to the "stroke" range.

 

[kjhof]

And those playing the human rights card would have a point... while I LOVE guns, I'm not sure I could bring myself to support communist china to get one. Especially when there are plenty of great american 1911s.

On the other hand, even if we could still import guns from China, the profit they would make on them is a drop in the ocean compared to what they make on all the other products they sell here--anyone who has a purchasing policy of "nothing from China" is going to have a very difficult time shopping.

 

[WalterGC]

They are permanent until actually rescinded by a future administration.

Exactly! Unless they're rescinded by the originator of the Order.

 

[270winchester]

I don't see how Norincos are relavent when there are SAs GI for sale around 4 bills in most parts of the country....

 

[jlang11]

I dont see what impact banning guns from China has when there are a million other things made in China for sale here.

 

[The Big D]

On the other hand, even if we could still import guns from China, the profit they would make on them is a drop in the ocean compared to what they make on all the other products they sell here--anyone who has a purchasing policy of "nothing from China" is going to have a very difficult time shopping.

I attempt to adhere to that policy, and have not found it particularly difficult except in a couple of areas. I'm not fanatic about it, but every $ counts in this particular fight so I do what I can.

 

[kjhof]

I think that if you tried to extend that policy to avoiding not only products that were made in China, but products that contained components or materials produced there, you would indeed find it very difficult.

 

[WalterGC]

My nifty new Canon digital camera was made....you guessed it, in China! Takes great pics, though; quality is superb, and the price was right.

Speaking of ridiculous laws/regulations, how on Earth is it constitutional that I can't cross a state line and buy an item (handgun) that's legal in both states, particularly in a state that reciprocally honors my carry permit? Can you think of any other product that one can buy in one state, but not in another?

 

[2TransAms]

Actually,I'd be first in line for a Norinco M1A.
Look at all the European guns out there.I really doubt that having Chinese arms allowed into the country would make much of an impact on the sales and production of domestic firearms. Springfield won't get my money anyway because I can't afford a gen-yoo-wine M1A, but I can afford a knock-off.

 

[major caliber]

China sanctions lifted?

WalMart running low on junk or something, or did they find a few more jobs they can export overseas? Frankly, I find nothing that we get from Communist China, that we can't get from other third world countries who aren't threating to destroy us...

 

[kjhof]

If I could get new Norc 1911's at the same kind of price the Canadians get 'em--I'd have dozens of the things, politics notwithstanding. :rock:

 

[E4MC]

Well, once they are ok for import, you can probably buy one at Marstar.ca at the same price the Canadians get them at.

 

[kjhof]

Well, once they are ok for import, you can probably buy one at Marstar.ca at the same price the Canadians get them at.

I still haven't heard or seen anything that makes me believe that anything is afoot that would make it OK to import them--do you have reason to believe that the exec. order is going to be rescinded?