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Anyone use a WC shok buff in there Baers? I put one in my PII the other day, but I haven't tried it out yet.
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Some pistols work fine with them, some don't.
I have used them for years in my P2. Never give me any problems. WC 's are hard plastic and don't fall apart.
If you do decide to run them, keep the oil far away. It'll cause the plastic to soften and warp like crazy.
If you do decide to run them, keep the oil far away. It'll cause the plastic to soften and warp like crazy.
I have never seen this. Ever. Perhaps you were using solvents or something harsh. Gun lube won't affect the polymer that buffs are made from. Glocks would be a spongy mess if that were the case.
I have never seen this. Ever.
Happend to me the three times I ran them. Maybe it was a fluke.
I use the ones that Wilson combat sell's for years and they have never come apart. I change them out for new one's when need be.
I use them but only because I have them. I have 7 more to get rid of so I figure a few more years and then I will go back to nothing. Interesting that over the years some Baer's come with them, some don't. Up to my 10mm they came with, my later 38 Supers did not.
I've used the blue Wilson buffs for years and have never have one grenade on me or warp. I do change them routinely and inspect them carefully at every cleaning. I think my Premier II came with a colorless buffer. I don't recall as it's been a while.
To each his own....and I respect ya'lls opinion and believe your statements.....but...
If you carry the gun or are going to use it for home defense.....
IMHO....don't use these things. A LB will take so many rounds without any damage and reasonable wear, there just is no reason except fear of recoil to use them.
I don't like the things and feel they are not needed.
CP Buffs are very good and IMO a step up over the Wilson Shok Buffs

http://www.brownells.com/handgun-pa...-auto-super-tuff-recoil-buffers-prod4971.aspx
The two 5" Baers I owned came with Wilson buffs and worked fine with 'em.

I use 'em in all (3) of my 1911s and have no problems. Change 'em every 1K or so.
I run one in my trs and love em.
Somewhere on this forum are posts showing Logman's shok buff setup using a steel washer in front of the buff to prevent it from getting cut up if your slide's dust cover has sharp corners (some do - some don't). All you need is a correct sized washer and 5 minutes with a file to shape it the same as the buff. The buff lasts for a VERY long time. Of course, in a lot of guns this will not allow you to "slingshot" the slide to release it. I have never seen a good reason to "slingshot" the slide anyway.
Somewhere on this forum are posts showing Logman's shok buff setup using a steel washer in front of the buff to prevent it from getting cut up if your slide's dust cover has sharp corners (some do - some don't). All you need is a correct sized washer and 5 minutes with a file to shape it the same as the buff. The buff lasts for a VERY long time. Of course, in a lot of guns this will not allow you to "slingshot" the slide to release it. I have never seen a good reason to "slingshot" the slide anyway.
Here is a good reason to slingshot your slide: If you train with multiple platforms of the semi-auto pistol the slide stop release will not always be in the same position. Slingshotting the slide ensures that a round will be chambered quickly and efficiently with basically any type of semi auto you are running. It also allows more force to generate when you pull the slide back that extra little bit to ensure the next round is fully chambered. Sometimes when a semi auto gets real dirty just hitting the slide release will indeed release the slide, but the force may be less due to some dirt/debris and the next round may not fully chamber.

I also don't agree with adding any type of washer in front of your shock buff just so you can run a shock buff which no one really "needs" to do in the first place. I understand a lot of people like them, and that is fine, but if your dust cover has sharp corners and is eating up your shock buff wouldn't it make sense that if you add a washer it is now going to be hitting a piece of metal? If I was going to run a shock buff I would much rather it get beat up and torn to pieces then my dust cover slamming into another piece of metal every time the gun recoils. I just don't really think adding parts to the 1911 is very necessary when it could compromise reliability.
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Well, your slide IS slamming into a piece of metal (the frame) every time it cycles without a shok buff. With the washer it is slamming into a cheaply replaceable piece of metal with a buff behind it (instead of the frame). The only way it compromises reliability is if there is not enough room for the buff (easily fixed) or if you never replace the buff and just let it fail. Also, some guns will not slingshot to release, with or without a buff installed. I have used buffs for over 25 years and never saw one disintegrate in any of my guns. Some of these guns were competition guns and would sometime fire 1000 rounds in a day. I have also seen people who never replace the shock absorbers on their car until they rust and start to fall off. That doesn't "prove" that shock absorbers are a dumb idea. Buffs only fail if you never inspect it when cleaning the gun. As far as not being able to find and trip the slide stop - I'd love to know who started that silly idea. That's like saying you should never use the brakes on your car because you might not be able to find the pedal because it's in a different place on different cars. Extremely simple minded "logic" that just doesn't make sense.
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Every car I've ever been in the brakes are in the same spot lol.. to each his own
If Les thought they we're a good idea, he would have shipped it with one.

Pitch it...
I personally talked to Les Baer a couple of years ago when I was having issues with my PII Super Tac and he told me to take the one out that came with the gun from the factory. I took it out and my cycling issues went away.
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