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I guess gun control (for which CA is known) isn't enough, maybe they need double secret gun control?
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I'm not trying to be crass, but everytime I hear of one of these crimes I think "another example of gun control laws that don't stop crime."
I mean, I know that stopping crimes is not the point of gun control, disarming citizens is, but as long as they are going to hide behind the crime excuse, I say point out every time it fails until they self-destruct from critical mass of cognitive dissonance.
I mean, here in VA a six year old kid found a way to circumvent 'gun free zones' at schools... :rolleyes:
 

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More verbal appropriation: The suspect used an "Assault pistol" as per the LA Sheriff.

To me it seems that no one in any position of power wants the citizenry armed. Why else re-define words like?
There's nothing "innocent" about the habitual mislabling of firearms in the press. It's all on purpose. Prove me wrong.
You are not wrong. The widespread misinforming of people re: gun facts is widely known by the media themselves. (Slate even admitted this in an article sev. years ago “If the media wants a healthy conversation about firearm laws, it needs to stop getting basic gun facts wrong”. (The Media Keeps Misfiring When It Writes About Guns)

What is interesting is that Slate here is admitting it is not only true, but known to be true, widely known, virtually taken for granted among the media themselves. This begs the question: If getting their facts wrong is a known problem why not correct it? The answer is obvious and suggests these inaccuracies are not errors but deliberate, and on purpose.

If you know there is a widespread problem of false information, ignorance, and bias among your own industry, and do not correct it, when the tools to do so including research staff are at your fingertips, it is deliberate.
 

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THIS is the crucial observation: The MSN propaganda narrative that even as bad as this was, CA's gun laws are effective. The emphasis is, as always, on the firearms to create the rational for ever-more gun control laws.

There are a number of other nearly identical news reports from several different MSM outlets, and every one of them is repeating this exact same propaganda narrative. The only significant deviation is that a few of them also throw in selected firearms related fatality statistics from other states (all red) to "prove" that CA's gun-control laws are "the best in the country" with the clear implication that those laws should be emulated everywhere, to include at the national level.

The speed and uniformity of so many various MSM outlets all reporting the exact same editorial stance is once again proof that the Dems all march to the same beat played by a centralized drum.
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Truth, to the 'mainstream media', is neither a moral nor metaphysical imperative; it is a tactic, and a commodity, best utilized in small doses, in order to push a larger lie: That those who wish to disarm you, strip you of your ability to defend your freedom and life and rights, have your best interests at heart and are no threat. I am not surprised they are still saying the laws are something to impose or emulate. They won't be truly happy until slingshots and potato guns are illegal, and only the government has guns.
 

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. The people I worked with certainly didn't like guns and certainly went out of their way to demonize gun ownership, but they weren't intentionally making mistakes about the technicalities of firearms. They just didn't care enough to seek out deeper knowledge of the subject matter...
When people know they are uninformed and refuse to rectify it, that is intentional, especially if they pass themselves off as informing others.

(But I could see where they would figure what's the point of learning about the topic, the only people who would spot any improvements in factuality are people who know guns, who they aren't going to convince to support gun control anyway.)
 

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My heart genuinely goes out to all of the victims. But you know that nothing would make the CCP happier than for the US government to institute strict gun control measures nationwide. Can not imagine why but they have come out publicly in favor of this on a pretty regular basis.
I've heard that too, several times China has called for US gun control. As to why, I recall a statement that an Axis gentleman allegedly made in WWII that one should not invade the US because there were too many privately owned guns. something about a rifle behind every blade of grass.
I'm of the opinion that the CCP doesn't need to invade anyone, because they can merely get politicians around the world to copy their policies (like lockdowns, social credit [i.e., digital identity'] etc.). But gun control would be a big help to anyone who did...
No reason to single out the CCP tho, pretty much every other country hates the US 2nd amendment because it makes their own governments look bad, their people look to us and say "how come they are free to do X and we aren't?" I mean pretty much every other nation has little or no true 'gun rights' and so we make them all look bad to their own people. Look at Canada.
 

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Correct, Yamamota did not say the blade of grass statement. He was shot down by P-38s sent to intercept his A/C as the message regarding his flight was intercepted and decoded as the US had broken the Japanese code several years before.
To be fair I think I said it was alleged attributed or supposed, not said for sure. it is probably as you say apocryphal like the 'sleeping giant' statement, but it certainly reflected the situation of widespread gun ownership in the US. The rifles the alleged quote was referring to were not issued army rifles in the hands of deployed troops, but the privately owned rifles that hung over the fireplaces and in the gun cabinets of American civilians at home; workers, farmers, mechanics, doctors, lawyers, housewives, and sundry other citizens on the home front.

In contrast, when Russia recently invaded Ukraine, it did so knowing that Ukrainian policy imposed strict gun controls and the civilian population was largely disarmed. As a result the world was treated to videos of desperate senior citizens, women, and children being handed rifles by the Ukrainian government and instructed on their use in rushed, last minute attempts to make up for a lifetime of gun control – when it was too late.

Similarly, compare Australia with America. Australia, which some years ago imposed sweeping gun confiscation, had during the height of covid hysteria, soldiers in the streets assaulting civilians and imposing authoritarian edicts, and even imprisoned innocent people in camps without trial. America resisted the Australian-style gun confiscation proposed by politicians such as Hillary and Obama, and so as bad as government overreach during covid authoritarianism was here, it never rose to that level. There were some steps our government was still afraid to take.

No doubt some wanted to act thusly; the infamous Rasmussen poll showing nearly 60 percent of Democrats favored putting science- and freedom-minded Americans under house arrest by force for not obeying irrational edicts, or the Salt Lake City newspaper editorial calling for using the national guard against Americans who refused to cower at home, make this clear. The CDC even had a plan to detain people forcibly, called the ‘shielding approach’ ( High-risk individuals would be relocated to safe or “green zones” established at the household, neighborhood, camp/sector, or community level depending on the context and setting. They would have minimal contact with family members and other low-risk residents.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/global-covid-19/shielding-approach-humanitarian.htm l
"One entry point is used for exchange of food, supplies, etc. A meeting area is used for residents and visitors to interact while practicing physical distancing (2 meters). No movement into or outside the green zone."
the CDC adds that “Isolation/separation from family members, loss of freedom and personal interactions may require additional psychosocial support structures/systems.”) but it was never imposed. we can thank the founders' 2nd amendment for that.

The Japanese admiral's quote may be a historical myth, but the value or arms as deterrent it supposedly referenced is proved daily :)
 

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So what? Everyone needs to stop seeing color.
Agreed. But, so many focus sadly on little else. I used to wonder why but now I think the reason so many focus on color is it is a substitute for the real identity of shared values, i.e., a culture. People all over used to come here for what this nation (US) represented, but when the people running the place look down their noses at the bill of rights, and other shared values, they need some substitute so they focus on obvious stuff anyone can see like color. It balkanizes the nation, creates or feeds negative stereotypes, and most importantly from the perspective of govt' and agitators, keeps people from uniting in a shared culture of respect for the rights of the individual citizen, whatever he or she looks like.
 
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