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I've got a thing for Argentine weapons and have been in the hunt for a 1927 Sistema Colt for some time. Finally last week an auction opportunity for several Argentine weapons came up and I grabbed it. I got two Sistema Colts and two 1909 Argentine Mausers.

Here are the Sistemas (Not great pictures, but I'll post better when they arrive). Both supposed to have matching numbers

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Those look nice! Looks like 1958 Navy and 1955 unmarked. Looks like original finish and grips on both? That's a score; very nice find.

I love these - quality guns. I'd love to have an original condition one like that.
 
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The top one looks all-correct. The bottom one has a replacement hammer and the ever-ubiquitous bent lanyard loop. I'm sure you'll enjoy both pistols.
 
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Thanks, guys! I wondered about the finish on these...original or not.


Any idea on what these are valued at these days?
I would say that the all original gun should bring some decent money. Assuming that all of the parts match. I bought a clean one a few years ago with all matching parts except the magazine and I paid eight bills for it. And considering the prices that these are bringing today. I feel pretty good about that. The second gun, hard to say.
 

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I've got a thing for Argentine weapons and have been in the hunt for a 1927 Sistema Colt for some time. Finally last week an auction opportunity for several Argentine weapons came up and I grabbed it. I got two Sistema Colts and two 1909 Argentine Mausers.

Here are the Sistemas (Not great pictures, but I'll post better when they arrive). Both supposed to have matching numbers

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Calfed,

Congratulations ! (There are many collectors that like them !!)

The top one, is one of 100 (98401 - 98500) shipped 9 Sep 1958 to General Directorate of Naval Material.

The 2nd one, is one of 20 (86591 - 86610) shipped 15 Oct 1955 (there were other shipments on 15 Oct 1955) to General Directorate of Naval Material. (And, it also looks like it needs a correct Left Stock.)

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Calfed,

Congratulations ! (There are many collectors that like them !!)

The top one is one of 100 (98401 - 98500) shipped 9 Sep 1958 to General Directorate of Naval Material.

The 2nd one is one of 20 (86591 - 86610) shipped 15 Oct 1955 (there were other shipments on 15 Oct 1955) to General Directorate of Naval Material. (And, it also looks like it needs a correct Left Stock.)

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Where did you get that information? I know where to get annual s/n range but that's quite specific... neat.
 
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I would say that the all original gun should bring some decent money. Assuming that all of the parts match. I bought a clean one a few years ago with all matching parts except the magazine and I paid eight bills for it. And considering the prices that these are bringing today. I feel pretty good about that. The second gun, hard to say.
That is a great price on that gun. They had one at the LGS a couple years ago that was 2&1/2 times that price. It sat for a while but someone ponied up for it.
 

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Where did you get that information? I know where to get annual s/n range but that's quite specific... neat.
Kamerer,

Both were/are listed in Table 8 - 5, on pages 187 and 188 in the Clawson Government Model book.

Table 8 - 6, on pages 188 and 189, list the D. G. F. M. NAVY Pistols, shipped to the Argentine Naval Prefecture [Headquarters].

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I've got a thing for Argentine weapons and have been in the hunt for a 1927 Sistema Colt for some time. Finally last week an auction opportunity for several Argentine weapons came up and I grabbed it. I got two Sistema Colts
You did well.

I remember when the Sistema was big at the Gun Shows 40 years ago. They were half the price of a used Colt and of course cheaper than a USGI

You did well and we are looking for more pictures and a Range Report.
 

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For the longest time Sistemas were dirt-cheap and a great option for someone wanting a USGI look-alike to take to the range and shoot. Unfortunately those days appear to be behind us as I'm seeing Sistemas advertised for what a Remington Rand sold for only 4 or 5 years ago.
 
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Calfed,

Congratulations ! (There are many collectors that like them !!)

The top one, is one of 100 (98401 - 98500) shipped 9 Sep 1958 to General Directorate of Naval Material.

The 2nd one, is one of 20 (86591 - 86610) shipped 15 Oct 1955 (there were other shipments on 15 Oct 1955) to General Directorate of Naval Material. (And, it also looks like it needs a correct Left Stock.)

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Thanks, Stan...great information
 

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You did well.

I remember when the Sistema was big at the Gun Shows 40 years ago. They were half the price of a used Colt and of course cheaper than a USGI

You did well and we are looking for more pictures and a Range Report.
My Sistema is from the 1950's and has been "ridden hard and put away wet" - but my Ballester-Molina condition's more then make up for it!

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Here's a link to more photos of the B-M:

Ballester-Molina photos
Nice guns, CWO. How does the B-M shoot compared to the Sistema?
 

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For the longest time Sistemas were dirt-cheap and a great option for someone wanting a USGI look-alike to take to the range and shoot. Unfortunately those days appear to be behind us as I'm seeing Sistemas advertised for what a Remington Rand sold for only 4 or 5 years ago.
I got a decent deal on the whole kit and caboodle.
 

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You did well.

I remember when the Sistema was big at the Gun Shows 40 years ago. They were half the price of a used Colt and of course cheaper than a USGI

You did well and we are looking for more pictures and a Range Report.
Wish I could go back. The first 1911 I bought myself (e.g., not shooting my dad's or uncle's gun) was a Norinco at a gun show in Fla. in 1993. The Sistemas were around on the tables for about the same price ($225 IIRC), too, but I didn't know what they were and I thought they were clones. I wish some salesman had straightened me out and I'd have bought both - Norinco to mod and the other to leave alone!

Boy that 1909 sure is pretty. I'm not a bolt gun guy but it doesn't take that to appreciate a nice collector's piece.
 
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Thanks, Kam!

Those '09's are in amazing condition for 110 year old rifles.

What amazes me is what you can still get 1911-wise for $400-450. My son jus bought a couple of Tisas 1911's for a bit over $400 each. They are amazing for the price.
 

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Thanks, Kam!

Those '09's are in amazing condition for 110 year old rifles.

What amazes me is what you can still get 1911-wise for $400-450. My son jus bought a couple of Tisas 1911's for a bit over $400 each. They are amazing for the price.
Yep, those look nice. I mess with ARs, have a CMP Garand, and my old .22 marlin but that's all for long guns. But it's clear those are special examples of the period. Congrats.

I agree from what I heard about the Tisas. At some point when there's a smoking deal on a model I like I'm going to get one, pretty much just for the safe. Because we all say "well I wish I'd bought a Norinco (or Sistema, etc.) back when..." and I'm sure that's the same case here. It's like, "Are you going to put your money where your mouth is when it's apparent...?" ;)
 
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