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They do but I'm guessing the folks that would be out there are probably not the kind you would need to loose much sleep over.
 

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Voting hasn't worked.

Writing my representatives borough, state and federal hasn't work.

Demonstrations and petitions haven't worked.

I wish I knew what would or is working.
The system has become so broken and dysfunctional that there is no way to fix it from within. In no small part because there are no meaningful repercussions for failing to adhere to one's oath to protect and defend the constitution.

And nothing will change until the tree of liberty is refreshed with the blood of tyrants. I would love to be proven wrong on this. But I don't think I am.

May God save our Republic.

WOLVERINES!
 

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The system has become so broken and dysfunctional that there is no way to fix it from within. In no small part because there are no meaningful repercussions for failing to adhere to one's oath to protect and defend the constitution.

And nothing will change until the tree of liberty is refreshed with the blood of tyrants. I would love to be proven wrong on this. But I don't think I am.

May God save our Republic.

WOLVERINES!
God won't save it. That is our job. And yes, it will take the blood of tyrants to wash away their sins against the Constitution. And yes, the Left has definite plans and the money from Soros and other sources to finance them. But standing up to them in large numbers...facing them down on college campuses, at rallies, out voting them in elections...and performing citizen arrests when we suspect voter fraud...and organizing into the militias that the Constitution authorizes...these signs of strength and resolution will make them see that they will pay a price if they try to overthrow the country. We may have to settle for a partition of the country into Free Republic States and Marxist Slave States...but the alternative is surrender and certain slavery. And I wouldn't be surprised if they are monitoring these forums...but if we become afraid to speak about defending our country, then we have given it away.
 

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Agree but I dont think anything will come as we all sit back and watch and complain, me too, and even make comments we dont support those who tried Vs rallying to support our citizens at every opportunity that presents itself.

We; have jobs and must work to pay our bills, support our families and of course pay the tax burden put on us. No organization game plan or funding.

Them; mostly loners with time and well funded by those who are working to change and destroy our Republic and the game plan to accomplish.

G-d helps those who help themselves.


The system has become so broken and dysfunctional that there is no way to fix it from within. In no small part because there are no meaningful repercussions for failing to adhere to one's oath to protect and defend the constitution.

And nothing will change until the tree of liberty is refreshed with the blood of tyrants. I would love to be proven wrong on this. But I don't think I am.

May God save our Republic.

WOLVERINES!
 

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But you better bring a lot of water with you when you do this.
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I'm thinking a stainless water tank, maybe 100 gallons (900 lbs) on a 1/2 ton PU frame should solve that for drinking. Solar stills can be made of stainless that produce 3 or more gallons a day multiplied by as many as one wishes to make, so even a salty well gives pure water after processing.
In fact, many people are living off the grid now, and many more every year, solar plates on roofs to battery banks and thence to inverters for 110V power. Much more hassle, limited life but both batteries and solar are improving and, contrary to socialist wet dreams, competition produces cheaper/better products than state run factories, of course. (But you have to have a brain to see it evidently)
The whole concept of divorcing oneself from an increasingly regimented socialist slave state has an appeal all it's own, and like any exciting pastime may become less "hassle" and more "Payback".
There is also talk of Idaho and South central Oregon, areas of Wyoming and Nevada becoming an armed redoubt. If that concept materializes and grows then American living could survive a while longer within those areas.
I know plenty of people here who are honing long range rifle expertise, an area with 10% of the population so equipped would be a nightmare for socilaist snowflakes.
 

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Do you remember the name of area you're talking about? You're probably talking about pleasant valley, It's the desert right outside of Boise. Lots of prairie dogs out there, we call them whistle pigs though. I would love to live out there. I guarantee you, nobody will give a rip about you shooting off your porch, they all do it. And that desert area is huge, it goes from Oregon, all the way to Wyoming. You won't have any neighbors if you don't want them.

Idaho is a big state, like the 3rd largest I think, anyway south Idaho is a desert and foothills. Then it turns to Mountains a little bit north, and the mountains go all the way to Canada. The more north you go, the more isolated it is. Gets super cold in the winter though. Idaho isn't flipping blue any time soon.
My daughter lived in Sandpoint. The winters are mild up there.
 

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My daughter lived in Sandpoint. The winters are mild up there.
Yeah my friend moved over there a couple years ago. I don't think she described them as mild, though. I'll ask her again, can't remember now, but I think she said they're pretty bad. We're comparing to Boise though. Very little snow here, but it gets pretty cold.

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BTW Michael Buttberg was in Texas today, promising to turn the state blue next election. If he can't find enough votes he'll buy them... just watch.
 

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Hitler and the Soviets had no trouble conscripting armies and police to destroy any resistance. If the Democratic Socialists take over this country, they will follow the road map laid out by the Nazis and commies. The only way to defeat them would be with swift and overwhelming force that seized and held government officials and property and then declared new governments. But to support that requires extensive planning and stockpiling of assets. Conservatives and supporters of the Second Amendment have not done that...yet.
 

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If I wanted to have a place in Idaho.

I would just go ahead and get one. And then if I had to deal with Peckerheads down the road. Then I would deal with them. Running away only encourages them.

We are currently dealing with Peckerheads here in the Commonwealth. And you best believe that a lot of them are running scared these days. Nothing worth having ever comes easy, just sayin!
 

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Conservatives and supporters of the Second Amendment have not done that...yet.
There is a logical progression from the tipping point (after which armed dissent becomes neccessary) to a regulated take back of the government. Until people stand up and declare a willingness to take personal responsibility on a large scale the only thing we can do besides berating the abuses and gathering arms is watch for a leadership to stand up.
Look at the original revolution for the pattern, first abuses, then requests by a good percentage of the population for redress from those abuses, then tyrannical reaction by those in power which brings many millions more willing supporters.
After the numbers and the anger become great enough a leadership needs to be found and a declaration of intent made by that leadership.
After that appeals to other nations to admit the righteousness of our cause, and perhaps help on a large scale.
My own personal difficulties involve whether or not the "Creator" mentioned in the Declaration of Independence is on our side, as I'd far rather stand up against a swamp government than against God, and would never begin to support such a "rebellion" without a good amount of prayer.
With all this I think I see plenty of demands written within the framer's documents to see such massive deadly force not as an option but as a requirement for being a good American citizen.
 

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Pittsburg Pa was Bloomberged as well. He got a lawmaker to write a red flag law, assault weapon band and mag ban. It was fought by a local 2A lawyer and won but Bloombergs Everytown for Gun Safety appealed it.
Blomberg and company know exactly what they are doing and how they will do it! They pick counties that are leaning left and pour tons of money in with legislation like "Gun Safety" laws disguised to do nothing less than full gun confiscation.

It has already happened in WA, OR and CA. Next will come ID, NV and AZ. Just watch what Bloomberg does not what he says!

P.S. Checkout Coeur D'Alene!

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