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Springfield Armory's raw 1911 slide & frame forgings?

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Some months ago, while catching up on some 1911 information, I came across this picture. They are supposedly a raw forged slide and raw forged frame that Springfield Armory acquires from somewhere in the US to produce their pistols from.
My question, out of pure curiosity, is if anybody has ever uncovered the source for these US made forgings?
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The original picture appears to have mold lines, or is that just me?
Well, kind'a... That line is formed when the top forging die comes crashing down with the lower forging die. It's a forging. I shared a S&W video above somewhere that shows the drop forged process.
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thank you did not know.
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Well, kind'a... That line is formed when the top forging die comes crashing down with the lower forging die. It's a forging. I shared a S&W video above somewhere that shows the drop forged process.
Right, die forging. My 1910 copy of Greener calls that "stamping." (Even now, a sheet metal shape is a "pressing" in the Old World.)
Republic Forge I believe shares the majority of blank forging with a Brazilian Forge, if they haven'ttaken over all forging yet. I don't know what companies use which Forge though. I do know that Republic, in Texas, is so pro "Built in America" that litteraly everything in their building is manufactured in the states. Machines, tools, work benches on down to every office supply. They even insure that the modems and computer cases they purchase are made with cases built in Arris' American factories. I only know this because my son is the lead 3D graphic designer/Engineer for their Pennsylvania headquarters and he was telling me a few years ago about his trip to their HQ in Texas to set up the contract that insured their cases for their modems, computers, cable boxes, remotes and projectors has US serialized cases when those companies delivered their orders and or parts. Strange as it sounds, Arris worked with those various companies to make sure their assembly lines in Taiwan and China have enough cases from the US to special assemble their products with US cases. (Repuplic's parent company owns a ton of other businesses so it's monetarily advantageous to pander to them). You can even call Republic and ask them, they're actually proud to answer those specific questions. I hope Colt is one of their customers.
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While no Company in the highly competitive firearms market will tell you where they out source their forgings from .Not Springfield , Not Wilson , Not Nighthawk ,
Not Colt , You pick the manufacture . South Korea is the the source for a lot of manufactures these days . They have a good quality product at a good price point .
They are the worlds 6th largest producers of steel . Always a good idea I think to support our allies and a country we fought to keep free and is the 6th largest
uneconomic country on the world stage and is not aligned with China . I will also tell you that Springfield Armory is a Very American Company very linked to the
small town of Geneseo IL . While they could move at anytime they want to a much friendlier manufacturing state , which I would not blame them for doing , Iowa
is just 10 miles west . They are staying put and expanding their facility in town .

Side note : And not North Korea like our lovely Vise President has said or thinks or whatever she does .
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Not Jimmy but I would like to see the source for this information. Joe
Well then do some research, I couldn't care less whether or not you believe me. S.A. has used different processes on different models of their firearms. Forged in the U.S. and Brazil and cast in Brazil, they will identify the country on the frame on a 1911 but not whether or not they were cast or forged. I think the less expensive 1911s were the only cast frames they used and actually if the casting was done properly, it probably isn't a big deal anyway. I recently examined a government model S.A. a friend was trying to sell; it was stamped made in Brazil on the frame and looked cast to me.
Diffidently an older model or pre 2016 . Its always a good rule of thumb to have the serial number of the firearm your looking at to sell or buy so you
can know the manufacture date of the firearm . More information is always a good thing .
Well then do some research, I couldn't care less whether or not you believe me. S.A. has used different processes on different models of their firearms. Forged in the U.S. and Brazil and cast in Brazil, they will identify the country on the frame on a 1911 but not whether or not they were cast or forged. I think the less expensive 1911s were the only cast frames they used and actually if the casting was done properly, it probably isn't a big deal anyway. I recently examined a government model S.A. a friend was trying to sell; it was stamped made in Brazil on the frame and looked cast to me.
Thanks but 鈥渄o research鈥 is not a source to me. So you saw one that 鈥渓ooked鈥 cast. Thats it?
Joe
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