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I don’t own a true 1911, and the Springfield vickers master class really caught my eye. Wanted to ask the group what their thoughts are on that and is there is anything else I should look at as well. I would like to stay with 45 acp or maybe 10mm.

with a msrp of around $1400, I typically over research everything. Perhaps there is a better value play out there that I’m overlooking. I’m thinking this might be a range gun or ‘Texas bbq gun’. So I’m in no hurry here, plenty of time.

I get that this might be vague but I like research and hearing what other people like to use.
 

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Wow, the SA website is pretty lackluster in its description. Pretty much just says WC hammer and safety, cool sights, and cool checkering.

For $1500 I’m with you, how about more information. I guess they expect us to bow to the Vickers name and accept that it must be bad azz.
 

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A well-made 1911 is not an inexpensive pistol. I think the best value in 1911s is Dan Wesson - they are half the price of a Wilson Combat (for example), but far more than half the gun. Dan Wessons are 100% machined metal - no MIM and no casting - and the fit is exceptional for a production gun. But several of their models push $2,000.

If used is an option, you can find Dan Wessons in fine condition for under $1,500.

And don't worry about "over research," these is much to know about the 1911 platform and you might find you enjoy the rabbit hole!
 

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I don’t own a true 1911, and the Springfield vickers master class really caught my eye. Wanted to ask the group what their thoughts are on that and is there is anything else I should look at as well. I would like to stay with 45 acp or maybe 10mm.

with a msrp of around $1400, I typically over research everything. Perhaps there is a better value play out there that I’m overlooking. I’m thinking this might be a range gun or ‘Texas bbq gun’. So I’m in no hurry here, plenty of time.

I get that this might be vague but I like research and hearing what other people like to use.
Personally I believe the Vickers Master Class is a slight step above the TRP. No mim, wilson combat sights/hammer/slide stop/safety, 2 Vickers duty mags according to Springfield it gets touched by the custom shop a little as well.
 

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Thank you mods for moving this to the right spot and not just deleting the post..... like how they do over at Hkpro. Appreciate it
 

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Thank you all for the responses. Another question, related to the Dan Wesson comment. I agree, getting used is a great idea and that makes going to my spot that sells used more like a treasure hunt, that should take months. But..... how come my local range has Dan Wesson(s) that just sit collecting dust, no one buys but the Wilson Combats and staccatos and beretta ltt fly off the shelves?
I’m looking at a vbob, specialist and Bruin.... sitting for well over a month. Are those just the undesirables?
 

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I know it’s weird to mention beretta in that list but with trigger job, np3 and Spartan sights.. those sell for over 1800 around here
 

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if you go to the "other" 1911 forum and scroll through the classifieds (firearms), check out whats for sale and look at the activity / follow up posts.

Staccatos are hot right now and I own a Beretta LLT. I went to STI to view a couple, I shot a new and gen 1 model.... (let the rock throwing begin).... I personally dont think they are worth the coin they are asking. Are they good guns.... I am sure they are. I have an LTT and thats my Staccato. All one has to do is put in the time behind the platform.

I am not throwing rocks at WC, but there are alot for sale in the used market. I have shot a couple and a buddy has one. While I was big on SACS and that is gone, I always look at DW, however I shot from the hip and ordered me an ACW CC. I am told it will be in my hands soon.

I once owned a DW Valkryie in 9mm and for the 1200$ I spent for NIB, it was one of the best guns I ever owned. I only sold it as I was getting out of the 1911 9mm platform.

Added, look at costs. There is nothing wrong with Springers.... but if you have/want to do any refinements... (checkering, sights, trigger job, yada yada)... that might put you in DW territory.
 

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I picked up my Vickers yesterday, ordered a few months ago when announced.
Money down.
Cost was list.
Range time today outdoors, private.
Will shoot with Wilson HAP and Rem ball against my Colt Custom Shop Competition.
Fit/finish superb and probably the best trigger I have ever pulled in a 1911, absolutely no creep!
Wilson Vickers mags are costly but I ordered 4 from Wilson to go with the one mag supplied.
We will use Wilson 10 rnd today.
599469
 

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... to go with the one mag supplied.
Congratulations on the gun. As for the "one mag supplied", that is the oldest trick in the gun store business. The seller keep the extra one and only include one with the gun. The gun came from Springfield with 2 mags.
 
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Thank you very much!
Looked at the compartment in the box marked ‘Accessories’ and there was another mag!
Now I will have 6 Vickers/Wilson mags.
 

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Thank you very much!
Looked at the compartment in the box marked ‘Accessories’ and there was another mag!
Now I will have 6 Vickers/Wilson mags.
Glad I was wrong about the dealer scalping the magazine.
 

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Uusually I just ignore all the crap that comes with a firearm and leave the junk along with receipts with the original box for posterity!
Instruction manuals are on-line and I down load them into my ‘Books’ App for reference.
I have become used to the ‘one mag’ syndrome after the ’Assault Bill’ caused the mag crash.
Nice to see that Springfield has not followed that trend, another mag is a small cost when your paying $1500 for a firearm but to a ‘Bean Keeper’, it’s only the bottom line that counts.
-Richard
 

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Uusually I just ignore all the crap that comes with a firearm and leave the junk along with receipts with the original box for posterity!
Instruction manuals are on-line and I down load them into my ‘Books’ App for reference.
I have become used to the ‘one mag’ syndrome after the ’Assault Bill’ caused the mag crash.
Nice to see that Springfield has not followed that trend, another mag is a small cost when your paying $1500 for a firearm but to a ‘Bean Keeper’, it’s only the bottom line that counts.
-Richard
also the integrity of your dealer!
 

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I just watched one sell on Gunbroker for $1625. Most of them are listed around $1800 but there is a consecutive serial# set with a starting bid of $3600. I think I'll wait for the craziness to settle down!
 

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I've gotten lucky with gunbroker twice, but most of the time, I find their prices insane. so your experience matches up to that for sure. 1800 is too much
 
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