Well at one time they told me it would be completed by this comming Thursday or Friday. I can only hope. This is a 5" Trojan with the small fiber optic front and adjustable rear, also with the Lite recoil reduction system and standard grips. I wish I would have ordered the thin grips now as I could have had it right then, and switched them my self, ho well. I think ther esi also one other thing I ordered but I don't remimber what it was now.