Not a single caliber - pistol, rifle, or shotgun (gauge) - is a guaranteed manstopper. For any caliber you care to mention, someone can tell a horror story about how some scumwad took five hits from a .50 Browning and kept coming.Originally posted by Greg1911:
How good is the .223 for stopping attackers at close range the two legged types? I would think a close range a good .45 hp would be better can that small narrow slug do alot of damage or is it built to be shot at long distances?
Having shot stuff with both (but no people) I would not characterize the .223 as vastly superior to the .45...in fact in deer it has proven inferior in the cases I have seen (but that is explainable and does not make it a bad defensive round). I must hasten to point out that a few or even a few dozen cases does not a "study" make.Originally posted by Greg1911:
yeah 3000 fps is quick its just the size of the slug doesn't look like much .223 hollow points would probably be a good idea for defense also.
If somone shoots you 3 or 4 times with a .22 LR and is aiming for a critical area of the body its bound to be alot more than "very confusing." I personally would be very afraid of somone with say a Ruger MkII 6" bull barrel and good shooting skills. I dont think the .22 LR is a wimpy bullet at all even tho it is very small. Hunting/Plinking experience leads me to believe that it has more penetration then the average person thinks.elsworth said:
..SNIP...Too, if someone shoots you, then zip!, they are gone. It is very confusing. You stand there feeling kinda "out of place". I'm trying to make a point about tactics. Meaning, if someone pops out and hits you 3 or 4 times w/ a .22LR, then zip! they are gone! The effect is magnified.
It's very confusing. You would have to be in an altered state of consciousness on drugs, sheer meaness, or perhaps have a lot of training to overcome this and continue fighting in a cogent fashion, I believe.