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I am about to buy an STI Trojan 5" and wondered about the thickness of the grips. The standard offering are the 'STI rosewood thin panels', but they also offer a 'thick grip'. However, the store from which I am buying the Trojan does not have the thicker panels in stock right now.

Presently, I have a Kimber SST2 that I really like; it has never failed me in eight IDPA matches and many practice sessions, and it fits my hand just fine.

Q1: Since I do not have an idea of what the thick and thin panels are, could someone let me know how does the STI Trojan with the 'thin rosewood panels' compare with the Kimber rubber grips as on my SST2?

Q2: If the STI 'thin rosewood panels' result too thin for me, are there any other panels (rubber) available that would duplicate, more or less, the feel and size of the Kimber when installed on the Trojan?

Thanks!

Alex
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A1: The STI grips will be thinner than the rubber ones you are now using.

A2: Yes, rubber panels of standard width are readily available. You can a set from Hogue, which will look like this:
 

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Spec 1911 grip panel thickness, at the highest point, is .250". This is fine for many, perhaps most folks, but is a bit thick for some.
Typical "slimline" grips from many makers are on the order of .156-.165", way too thin for me.
Too bad grip panels don't come stock in multiple standard intermediate thickness levels.
I have to get mine made up custom, as I prefer about .230", and I also like to keep the plunger tube retaining lip on the left panel, which the typical "thinlines" discard.
 

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I have 1/16" thick walnut (I don't know whether this thick can be called veneer) as well as 1/16" thick neoprene. Using the factory rosewood grips as templates, I can cut the same profile inserts out of either the walnut or the neoprene, install them under the factory grips, and effectively increase the overall width of the grip about 1/8".

Can you see any problem in making spacers or inserts to fit under the stock grips to raise them 1/16" or so?

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Alex
 

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ingeniero1 said:
Can you see any problem in making spacers or inserts to fit under the stock grips to raise them 1/16" or so?

Thanks,

Alex
You will probably need to change the bushings and screws. The screws may not be long enough and without the taller bushings you will crush the wood before the screw contacts the top of the bushing. I really like the Pearce grips for 1911. They look just like your Kimber rubber grips but are contoured so that they are a little thinner than stock in the area of your magazine catch. They would be in between thickness of your stock Kimber and STI thin grips. They would be the cheap and easy answer. Brownells #092-100-011
1911 Auto Grip Panels $14.50
 

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Discussion Starter · #6 · (Edited)
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You will probably need to change the bushings and screws. The screws may not be long enough and without the taller bushings you will crush the wood before the screw contacts the top of the bushing."
You are correct about the screws (0.170 long), but I don't believe the bushings will make a difference. Here is why (at least on my STI Trojan...)

Bushing height over grip-frame = 0.036 (varies ± 0.002)
Rosewood grip shoulder height = 0.095 (varies ± 0.003) This is the overall grip thickness of 0.167 less counterbore depth of 0.072 = 0.095

Which means that the screws never come close to contacting the bushings; they tighten against the wooden grips. Therefore, if I can get screws that are about 0.230 (maybe 1/4") and add the 1/16" spacer, I will have about the same setup as from the factory.

Am I overlooking something?

That having been said, I will likely get the grips as you suggested, or similar. I have just been trying to keep the original rosewood if possible.
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ingeniero1 said:
That having been said, I will likely get the grips as you suggested, or similar. I have just been trying to keep the original rosewood if possible.
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Alex
I understand wanting to keep the rosewood grips, they look nice. I really don't have any pretty guns, they are all just tools so I put what works best for carry and competition. I just buy those cheap rubber grips and grind them up to fit my hand and allow good access to the mag catch. Maybe one of these days I'll get a pretty gun with the function that I like. :)
 
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