Tisas at SHOT 2023

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Tisas USA

Discussion Starter · 5 mo ago

Some shots of the booth in the main hall, will add others as we combine resources back in Knoxville.

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tiribulus

· #21 · 4 mo ago

hodge5 said:
Now that Turkey has put a $500,000 bounty on Enes Kanter Freedom, I'm less inclined to purchase a Turkish gun. While I am not one to boycott at a whim, there are other alternative 1911's to buy.

Here's the problem. A couple problems actually.

Number one is that there is just something not "right" about Enes Kanter Freedom. I've seen numerous interviews with this man and I know quite a bit about Islam. Things are just not adding up with this guy. An admittedly subjective assessment that I can't prove. The bounty is real. I'm not disputing that. I'm just saying that I don't trust him.

Number two is that I am more interested in the stances of Tisas as a company.

I know people in China who have no affinity for the CCP whatsoever and are just trying to make a living. Only about 12% of the Chinese population are actually active members in the party.

I do NOT want to support the Jinping regime or the noxious ideology it represents. That said, my refusal to ever buy anything made in China may be harming common Chinese people far more than it is the reprehensible communist government.

I'd like to know how cozy the honchos at Tisas are with Tayyip Erdoğan. I'd love to believe that they are just a manufacturing company that is concerned about making a competitive product and would be doing so regardless of who was at the helm of their country.

Would you want the world boycotting your product because... Joe Biden?

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Chipss

· #22 · 4 mo ago

jar said:
Tisas USA says they are transitioning to all machined tool steel parts and that currently the only remaining MIM part is the recoil spring cap.

Geez this company is building on heck of an 1911, at great prices.

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hardluk1

· #23 · 4 mo ago

GA 1911 said:
I watched the video. The gun is made in Turkey. What is wrong with buying a pistol made in the USA?

Would you buy a 1911 made in China today if you could . Probably not , right ? Be careful now as most every thing in your home or what your drive and fly in has china made parts especially electronics or a old USA brand name that today made in china ! Not real easy to start living USA made only if you research the product well . THis problem should get better in the future but as for now , not so good yet . Do you have a problem with mexico made products too . My last mexico made chevy silverado is gone , atleast my Nissian Frontier 4 door 4x4 was made in mississppi . I mean my - Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi - Frontier . Its more american than my last silverado . Ain't that a kick in the !

Chipss said:
Nice that it has a forged frame.
what is used on the sear? Disconnecter? Hammer? Mim or tool steel?

You do understand some of the most accurate 1911's start with Caspian frames and they are NOT forged but are investment cast made by Ruger's own - Pine Tree Casting . Blems are sold as Foster frames too

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jar

· #24 · 4 mo ago

Chipss said:
Geez this company is building on heck of an 1911, at great prices.

I had a long and sad history with 1911s. My Colt Series 80 I bought in the mid 1980s was NEVER reliable, even after three trips back to the mothership. My Dan Wesson Pointman/Patriot I bought a decade or two later was similar, it was ammo picky, magazine picky and while beautiful, just not reliable.

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The four Tisas 1911s though have been everything the 1911 was famous for, reliable, liking any ammo, working with ACT and CheckMate and Ed Brown and Chip McCormick and Sarco and Brownells and Wilson and Mec-Gar magazine in both seven and eight round. They have been easy to field strip and maintain, accurate, amazing well finished with simply no machining marks.

And have I mentioned $339.00?

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ruffdup

· #25 · 4 mo ago (Edited)

I had to Google the guy.

tiribulus said:
snip... Here's the problem. A couple problems actually.

+1
U.S. citizenship and allegiance to the country aren't mutually inclusive, particularly among the elite.

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hodge5

· #26 · 4 mo ago

tiribulus said:
Here's the problem. A couple problems actually.

Number one is that there is just something not "right" about Enes Kanter Freedom. I've seen numerous interviews with this man and I know quite a bit about Islam. Things are just not adding up with this guy. An admittedly subjective assessment that I can't prove. The bounty is real. I'm not disputing that. I'm just saying that I don't trust him.

Number two is that I am more interested in the stances of Tisas as a company.

I know people in China who have no affinity for the CCP whatsoever and are just trying to make a living. Only about 12% of the Chinese population are actually active members in the party.

I do NOT want to support the Jinping regime or the noxious ideology it represents. That said, my refusal to ever buy anything made in China may be harming common Chinese people far more than it is the reprehensible communist government.

I'd like to know how cozy the honchos at Tisas are with Tayyip Erdoğan. I'd love to believe that they are just a manufacturing company that is concerned about making a competitive product and would be doing so regardless of who was at the helm of their country.

Would you want the world boycotting your product because... Joe Biden?

Short of knowing more, and with a lot of 1911 offerings, I don't need to buy a firearm from a questionable country.
I have no way of knowing if people boycott what I build, because of Joe. All that I can do is keep moving forward.

ruffdup

· #27 · 4 mo ago

hardluk1 said:
snip... My last mexico made chevy silverado is gone, at least my Nissian Frontier 4 door 4x4 was made in Mississppi . I mean my - Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi- Frontier . Its more American than my last silverado.

My old Toyota Tundra was built in Indiana. They make em down in San Antonio, Texas, too...

tiribulus

· #28 · 4 mo ago

hodge5 said:
Short of knowing more, and with a lot of 1911 offerings, I don't need to buy a firearm from a questionable country.
I have no way of knowing if people boycott what I build, because of Joe. All that I can do is keep moving forward.

That is certainly your prerogative sir. It is simply not the case however, that buying "American" is by definition great for America and crippling to our enemies.

Nor is it ipso facto the morally superior decision. It would be fabulous if it were that simple, but there are too many variables in today's world.

ruffdup

· #29 · 4 mo ago

jar said:
snip... The four Tisas 1911s though have been everything the 1911 was famous for
...amazing well finished with simply no machining marks.
And have I mentioned $339.00?

Yep.
$319.99 ea OTD

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ruffdup

· #30 · 4 mo ago

They were sold as 'blem' because the frame was darker in color than the slide.
Haha I thought two-tone was all the rage these days.

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Tisas USA

Discussion Starter · #31 · 4 mo ago

hodge5 said:
Now that Turkey has put a $500,000 bounty on Enes Kanter Freedom, I'm less inclined to purchase a Turkish gun. While I am not one to boycott at a whim, there are other alternative 1911's to buy.

Tisas is a privately owned company and is not responsible for Turkish government policy anymore than you are responsible for what Sleepy Joe does. Their greatest enemy is whichever soccer team is playing Trabzon in the playoffs, so lighten up, Francis.

And I'll just say this, without violating any NDA's, that if you want to check if your favorite shootin' iron is all-American, FOIA some import permits and see where your vendor is shopping. It's public record, and I guarantee some jaw dropping surprises.

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Swift1

· #32 · 4 mo ago

The only bad thing about Tisas is that they are way too popular. My FFL hasn't been able to get either 9mm Stingray, or now the convertible Desperado!

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ruffdup

· #33 · 4 mo ago

Centerfire Systems and Classic Firearms have saved me a lot of money on Tisas'

hodge5

· #34 · 4 mo ago

Tisas USA said:
Tisas is a privately owned company and is not responsible for Turkish government policy anymore than you are responsible for what Sleepy Joe does. Their greatest enemy is whichever soccer team is playing Trabzon in the playoffs, so lighten up, Francis.

And I'll just say this, without violating any NDA's, that if you want to check if your favorite shootin' iron is all-American, FOIA some import permits and see where your vendor is shopping. It's public record, and I guarantee some jaw dropping surprises.

I appreciate your reply.

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Iknowmorethanyou222

· #35 · 3 mo ago

Tisas USA said:
Tisas is a privately owned company and is not responsible for Turkish government policy anymore than you are responsible for what Sleepy Joe does. Their greatest enemy is whichever soccer team is playing Trabzon in the playoffs, so lighten up, Francis.

And I'll just say this, without violating any NDA's, that if you want to check if your favorite shootin' iron is all-American, FOIA some import permits and see where your vendor is shopping. It's public record, and I guarantee some jaw dropping surprises.

What...? Are you implying that Tisas stopped making the gun it was known the world over for right as one of America's sweetheart brands started building one? That's weird. You'd think they'd import into the worlds largest firearms market.

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Cosmopolitan

· #36 · 1 d ago

Iknowmorethanyou222 said:
What...? Are you implying that Tisas stopped making the gun it was known the world over for right as one of America's sweetheart brands started building one? That's weird. You'd think they'd import into the worlds largest firearms market.

I do not think he is implying anything. Seems quite clear to m. TISAS is a company, not a government, and does not make government policy. By using FOIA access to documents, you can see where many vendors in the USA are using parts sourced from other countries, including Turkey. Seems perfectly clear to me. Many things that claim to be made in the "USA" are just put together here, from parts they sourced world wide. You pnly have to have a certain percentage of parts etc., 😜 from US companies to claim Made in USA.

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