Trigger install issue

Do you have to pull the trigger hard to get the hammer to drop?

rexm said:

Do you have to pull the trigger hard to get the hammer to drop?

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No, not at all. Hammer drops with same pressure/effort shown in the video when I pull the trigger

The vid link wasn't there the 1st time but my phone is weird. That sounds like a very distinct click, if it was hitting the grip safety it wouldn't sound like that and you'd fell it. The hammer is at rest on the frame too, farther forward of the slide being on. Push the hammer back a little where it should be ans try again.I don"t know if it can happen but is the disconnector in backwards? Tear it back apart and assemble the gun fully to check it again. The hard double click sounds like a sear/disconnector issue. Never had that happen.

rexm said:

is the disconnector in backwards? Tear it back apart and assemble the gun fully to check it again. The hard double click sounds like a sear/disconnector issue. Never had that happen.

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Thanks for the reply! The disconnector is not backwards, I reinstalled the original wilson combat I originally installed. The disconnector can only go in one way, the WC trigger works perfectly.

Another helpful member on here suggested that it may possibly be the grips. Fitting the grip is a bit advanced for me to complete without assistance.

Ok didn't see another post and didn't know you changed the grips. If the grips aren't relieved for the more arched Brown style safety it will shortstroke your full off movement. Easy fix if you don't want new grips. That explains the clicking. Never tried putting the dis in backwards to find out just like the sear I heard come up once. At least you got her.

rexm said:

Ok didn't see another post and didn't know you changed the grips. I

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I meant to say the grip safety, and I did not change the grip safety. It works perfectly with the oem and wc trigger so I figured that it will work without fitting the GS.

I’ll have a ‘smith look at it, if it’s too pricey for me, i’ll just use the wc trigger I installed.

I’m just being shallow and want to change the trigger for aesthetics!

If the clicking is due to the grip safety, the trigger bow is just grazing the front lower corner on the grip safety arm (the bar).

With the grip safety fully outward, attempt to pull the trigger repeatedly while very slowly depressing the grip safety. At some point, you will get full trigger travel (and the clicking). Does this point occur only when the grip safety is fully and firmly depressed? The grip safety cannot be depressed any further at the point where full trigger travel is allowed?

If so, the trigger bow is snapping over the front lower corner of the grip safety arm. Could be due to a trigger bow that's slightly taller at the rear.

The clicking sound is unusual. Reminds me of dry firing a double action revolver.

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I just remembered there were no grips on the vid, weird. Those are hard clicks for the pull and reset. It appears you can't feel it in the grip safety so the only thing left is feel the hammer and disconnector to feel the click,really strange. Don't know that trigger, does it have tabs at the trout of the bow for takeup adjustment and you have no pretravel screwing with the sear/disconnector relationship? They usually come with a neutral set so unless the bow is long I'm curious now.

I was thinking what Megafiddle said but without working with bad off spec stuff and hearing the snaps with no feel on the grip safety I dismissed that. If your hands aren't numb you should have felt that.

rexm said:

Don't know that trigger, does it have tabs at the trout of the bow for takeup adjustment and you have no pretravel screwing with the sear/disconnector relationship?

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It does have the tabs but i have not touched it yet. the clicking noise only happens when the grip safety is depressed.

I was watching more youtube videos, also a suggestion from another member, the grip safety may need to be filed down so it clears the trigger bow.

Like you mentioned, the trigger bow may be a hair taller and is not clearing the grip safety bar.

Am I making any sense, im new to 1911s so not very familiar with the terminology. apologies in advance but I do want to learn and work on my own pistol.

thanks for the help

It's just the clicking that's unusual. And also the fact that the trigger easily returns forward.

What typically happens with a new trigger or grip safety, is that the trigger will either not pull when the grip safety is depressed, or the trigger will pull (and drop the hammer) when the grip safety is not depressed. You may be right on the edge between those two conditions.

Have you tried the test I described in post #8?

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megafiddle said:

Have you tried the test I described in post #8

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I’m away from home for work and will not be back til Friday.

1)grip safety NOT depressed, I pull the trigger and trigger does not fire.

2)I engage the safety by pressing it, I pull the trigger and the hammer drops just like normally but it has that clicking that you hear in the video.

3)After pulling the trigger and hammer drops. I release the trigger, it resets, grip safety still depressed, I pull the trigger and you hear the clicking again, just like in the video.

That clicking noise only happens when the grip safety is fully depressed

Thanks for the help.

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It's got to be the trigger is catching the top of the cutout on the grip safety, man that clicking sound seems so different than it should be. Marker up that area and the marker will show you where it is.

rexm said:

It's got to be the trigger is catching the top of the cutout on the grip safety,

Marker up that area and the marker will show you where it is.

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…Going to do this when I get home. I’ll keep you posted, thanks again!

If you are not successful and decide to give up, let me know

javaduke said:

If you are not successful and decide to give up, let me know

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Thanks. What’s the worse that can happen, I screw it up and give you more work to do!

does the new trigger have an overtravel screw? if it's in too far it will not allow the sear to get out of the way of the hammer dropping and what you hear is the hammer skipping over the top edge of the sear, this can damage it. cock the hammer back and hold with you thumb and finger, pull the trigger and hold while you slowly move the hammer forward if you feel any resistance at all before it is against the firing pin, adjust that overtravel screw out till it is smooth. if that's not it, the trigger bow may be catching slightly on the grip safety, many videos out there of where to file a little material for clearance. my guess is still the trigger overtravel screw.

gunwolf said:

does the new trigger have an overtravel screw? if it's in too far it will not allow the sear to get out of the way of the hammer dropping and what you hear is the hammer skipping over the top edge of the sear, this can damage it. cock the hammer back and hold with you thumb and finger, pull the trigger and hold while you slowly move the hammer forward if you feel any resistance at all before it is against the firing pin, adjust that overtravel screw out till it is smooth. if that's not it, the trigger bow may be catching slightly on the grip safety, many videos out there of where to file a little material for clearance. my guess is still the trigger overtravel screw.

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Thanks, it does have an over travel screw, but I haven’t inserted it yet. I was going to put in later, was that my first mistake?

OS adjustment and trigger catching the grip safety are the two suspects suggested by the other members. I will try it and look at these two possibilities when I return home from work later this week.

Thanks again!