1911Forum banner
21 - 40 of 71 Posts

Premium Member
Joined
856 Posts
This thread makes no sense to me.

The lack of officer-sized frames is definitely odd, but the pricing is still very reasonable considering the quality. There are plenty of options for Duty Treated Dan Wessons, and if a model isn't available with it, I'm sure Dan Wesson will happily apply it for about $300.
 

Registered
Joined
3,189 Posts
I'll take a Springfield all day long over either of them.
WOW! You ACTUALLY think a Springfield is a better gun? 馃お
Unless you're talking about a Springfield custom shop gun like the Professional or TRP, SA's production-line guns are not even close!
 

Registered
Joined
2,193 Posts
the list prices for the valor valkyrie and other high end dw's has been 2,000 to 2200 for several years. we just were lucky to have vendors that didn't charge that much. not sure what this bashing is about. i don't think you are going to find a new wilson for 2k.
I dunno either. In no particular order the ECP, Guardian, and V-bob look pretty good to my eye.

Unless you're talking about a Springfield custom shop gun like the Professional or TRP, SA's production-line guns are not even close!
I was assuming those were what he meant. Comparing anything in the DW lineup to a Mil Spec or a Loaded isn't exactly a fair match up.
 

Registered
Joined
4,007 Posts
Discussion Starter · #25 ·
I guess I like guns to be styled to a theme鈥.like:

Classic - 5鈥; blue or ss; barrel bushing; single sided smaller safety; no mag well; wood grips; from strap checkering; fixed or Bomar type adjustable

Retro - like an old school 1911; except maybe a rowl hammer and rat tail safety; smaller early style or slightly extended thumb safety; original shape slide release; blue or parkerizing; wood double diamond grips; fixed sights in old school dovetail, but with oversized sights and maybe front dovetail.

GI - We all know the basic pattern, but with good parts!

Comp - 5鈥 base gun; maybe double stack; adj sights or optics slide; duty or ss finish; comp; ramped barrel; 9mm, 9x23,40s&w,45auto; g10 grips or rubber; bells&whistles!

carry - CCO or bobtail frame; fixed ledge sights; tritium front; duty Finish; short beavertail; narrow front of slide and/or front serrations; single side or ambi option for safety; solid trigger; 4lb pull
 
  • Like
Reactions: vortec

Registered
Joined
2,098 Posts
I hated last year鈥檚 Valor. The cruddy small parts looked and felt wrong.
Which parts? My 2021 Valor appears top shelf, parts-wise.

Nope, it isn't just you. I don't like the changes made to either the Valor or the Specialist, dropping the Vigil, dropping calibers, etc. Not a fan of the current lineup.
Which changes to the Valor and Specialist?

Dropping the Vigil, just made every Vigil out there worth more. One of the best pistols they ever made, and priced nicely. I love limited run 1911's. A smart move on DW's part. The limited run of Cz 1911's they made are very collectable.

--------------------------------------------

I don't like the PM's or the SS finished models either. But like most 1911 companies, DW is a victim of their customer base. if people are asking for god awlful SS finishes, and they're selling quick, so be it. My LGS just sold it's ugly SS Colt Competition, after it sat a while collecting dust. While every black 1911 sold in days. If I was there, I'd ship every single part out to the melonite nitride company.

As for the lack of officers frames, 1911's aren't competitive in the small gun range. I'd call them completely obsolete at this point. So I respect DW's choice to stay in their lane, and build 1911's that are good viable defensive pistols. I would have done the same thing, fullsize and commanders only. Leave compacts and subcompacts to the polymer world.

Maybe, just maybe, it's a hint that the DWX compact 9mm still exists..................

$2100 for a duty treated top end DW, isn't a bad price at all. These aren't cast mimbers, or base 01991 Colts.

A .45 TCP or Black Bruin, might be in my future. But I'd rather have a DWX commander.
 

Registered
Joined
7,132 Posts
As for the lack of officers frames, 1911's aren't competitive in the small gun range. I'd call them completely obsolete
馃槀
Well, we don鈥檛 compete with them. But an awful lot of us do carry them.

Based on some of your recent posts, it doesn鈥檛 surprise me that you consider ofc鈥檚 obsolete, it wouldn鈥檛 surprise me if you considered the entire platform obsolete.
 

Registered
Joined
2,098 Posts
I am the biggest DW fan around but disappointing:

No optic ready slides, no carbon steel blue guns (A2 or Valor), no threaded barrels, no cool finishes like my Wraith, basically all plain vanilla.
I don't think 1911's are legal in ''carry optic'' divisions, anywhere I compete.

DT is so nice, I don't want a blue pistol ever again. All of my blued pistols are well worn. I might consider a polished DLC finish on one of my 1911's. But will likely chicken out and keep it matte finished.

I'd imagine that they're streamlining options to increase/ease production, to keep up with demand.
 

Registered
Joined
4,958 Posts
You can sure get cheaper1911s than DWs but you can鈥檛 get better value!!
Mine are equal in quality, fitment and accuracy to my EB.

To those turned off by the price - you have options. To those turned off by the looks you have options too. You can spend less and get a gun that looks better to you - but you can鈥檛 get better value.
 

Registered
Joined
284 Posts
Never said Dan Wesson was a bad gun or not worth the money. I'm just not interested in paying over 2 grand for one gun. I've looked at all the Ed Browns, Les Baers and Wilsons but I just don't think I'm good enough or get to shoot enough to invest that much in one.

Over a year period I picked up a new stainless, Kimber Target II and a Colt Competition also stainless, both in 9mm. I didn't have any 1911s in 9mm and I wanted to try one, but I couldn't decide which one, so I got both. I got both for $1700 OTD. They're as good as shooters as I am. But I didn't get either for carrying, just range toys., because I like to shoot 1911s and I have a lot of 9mm ammo on hand.
 

Registered
Joined
4,007 Posts
Discussion Starter · #37 · (Edited)
We only build what sells and discontinue what doesn't sell. We have already sold everything we can build, twice over. For this reason, I can't take custom orders.
I figured you did. I have no doubt you are following the market. I鈥檓 just surprised the market doesn鈥檛 want those things.

I wouldn鈥榯 begrudge your prices unless your product failed to perform!
 
21 - 40 of 71 Posts
Top