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Hey guys, yesterday I decided to do some window shopping at one of my local pawn shops. Usually, I don’t find much at this particular one, but this time I came across a used R1 government model in the stainless steel finish. I asked to inspect it and it did not seem to be in bad condition and appeared to only have maybe a few hundred rounds through it. The finish on it was still very clean with only a couple of decent sized scratches (slight exaggeration) on the gun that really aren’t deep. The bad comes in with the accessories. The gun comes with only the 7 round mag that was in it with a Kimber base pad and NOTHING else. Not even a case. Also I will need to clean it as it was dirty on the inside.

Is $560 a good price for this gun or should I pass? I did look up pricing for a new one and found anywhere between $600-700. Like I said this gun appears to be lightly used. Maybe even still in the break in period. It just doesn’t come with everything. Thanks in advance
 

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You can get it new from several on-line retailers for under $600.00 and there is a $75.00 mail in rebate if you buy a new one prior to the end of July.
 

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You can get it new from several on-line retailers for under $600.00 and there is a $75.00 mail in rebate if you buy a new one prior to the end of July.
The lowest I saw one was for $615 online. Also, what comes in a new package?
 

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https://www.dahlonegaarmory.com/products/handguns-remington-96324-885293963245-2448

https://lockedloaded.com/product/re...t-pistol-acp-5-71-walnut-grip-stainless-steel

https://g4gguns.com/product/remingt...t-pistol-acp-5-71-walnut-grip-stainless-steel

There are a couple of others. They are all listed on Wikiarms. I believe you will get a cardboard box, 2 mags, a bushing wrench, a gun lock, and an owner's manual with a new one. The rebate will take a long time to get but I've lays gotten mine.
 

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https://www.dahlonegaarmory.com/products/handguns-remington-96324-885293963245-2448

https://lockedloaded.com/product/re...t-pistol-acp-5-71-walnut-grip-stainless-steel

https://g4gguns.com/product/remingt...t-pistol-acp-5-71-walnut-grip-stainless-steel

There are a couple of others. They are all listed on Wikiarms. I believe you will get a cardboard box, 2 mags, a bushing wrench, a gun lock, and an owner's manual with a new one. The rebate will take a long time to get but I've lays gotten mine.
Well I stand corrected. So if I did decide to negotiate based on those prices, would 480-500 sound good?
 

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450 would be top of the mark IMO. Gun sales are in the toilet now it is a buyers market. I would buy the Springfield you were talking about over the R1 also
 

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Once you factor in shipping and transfer fees the new R1 cost may be a bit higher. My new R1S, including shipping and taxes, less the $75 rebate was $535. Then add in the $30 transfer and you are at $565. Quality is very high and I am happy with my purchase. Also, I took it to my gunsmith and paid him $ to work over the hammer and sear.
 

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450 would be top of the mark IMO. Gun sales are in the toilet now it is a buyers market. I would buy the Springfield you were talking about over the R1 also
The problem is that, this place is being very stiff on price. I did put in an offer on the Springfield at IMO a fair $475 but they said that they “priced them with a firearm specialist”. I’m sure they only look at the new price and go off of that and don’t factor in condition.
 

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The problem is that, this place is being very stiff on price. I did put in an offer on the Springfield at IMO a fair $475 but they said that they “priced them with a firearm specialist”. I’m sure they only look at the new price and go off of that and don’t factor in condition.
Firearms specialist is code for the idiot in the back with a 6 year out of date blue book.

I paid 763.09 for my R1S back in 2014. At the time the price was about what they were going for everywhere new in box. I also qualified for the rebate at the time, so I got 75 dollars back. I didn't think I did too bad on the gun.

Shortly after that the bottom fell out on Remington 1911's, and they were blowing them out super cheap. I have been happy with the Remingtons so far, but probably wouldn't buy one today..

I might go 450 on a used one, but not a penny over that. If I were in the market for a .45 today, and it being stainless wasn't important. I'd opt for the Springfield Milspec Defender for a budget 1911. You will get the forged Mispec gun, but also a warranty.

I don't have faith in Remington anymore, and wouldn't trust them to repair a wet paper sack.
 

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I looked at a new R1 Carry today, LGS had them at 589, and a 75 dollar rebate. In WV we don't pay a transfer fee. I'm with Wilsonedbrown and Jason D I wouldn't give a dime over 450 for a used R1.
 

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The problem is that, this place is being very stiff on price. I did put in an offer on the Springfield at IMO a fair $475 but they said that they “priced them with a firearm specialist”. I’m sure they only look at the new price and go off of that and don’t factor in condition.
Firearms specialist is code for the idiot in the back with a 6 year out of date blue book.

I paid 763.09 for my R1S back in 2014. At the time the price was about what they were going for everywhere new in box. I also qualified for the rebate at the time, so I got 75 dollars back. I didn't think I did too bad on the gun.

Shortly after that the bottom fell out on Remington 1911's, and they were blowing them out super cheap. I have been happy with the Remingtons so far, but probably wouldn't buy one today..

I might go 450 on a used one, but not a penny over that. If I were in the market for a .45 today, and it being stainless wasn't important. I'd opt for the Springfield Milspec Defender for a budget 1911. You will get the forged Mispec gun, but also a warranty.

I don't have faith in Remington anymore, and wouldn't trust them to repair a wet paper sack.
Lol I’ve gotten many recommendations for the Defender between my two pawn shop posts. I have it already and I agree 100% that it is a better buy. And I definitely don’t doubt that they are using an outdated book either. If they won’t budge then it’ll be one less sale they make. Thanks to you guys I’ve learned a great amount about what these guns are worth
 

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The R1S is my IDPA/ bowling pins gun. I got it new about 2 years ago and with rebate and FFL transfer it came to about $475. I’ve only done minor work to it; lightly polished the internals for a clean trigger, C&S extractor, and 18lb recoil spring. That’s it, and the gun has run 100% flawlessly through thousands of rounds. It’s an Alabama-built gun, not NY. I’ve read there are known quality control issues with the NY guns.

I’ve never owned a high dollar 1911 like a Brown, Nighthawk, WC or whathaveyou but I’ve owned a lot of different 1911’s over the years and I have to admit my R1 is the best bang for my buck so far.
 
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