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I am going to purchase a 1911. I have narrowed my search down to an Ed Brown Special Forces and a Dan Wesson Valor. I know about Ed Browns and have fondled the Special Forces and shot his Kobra Carry. Beautiful fit and finish and wonderful to shoot. Have only read about Dan Wessons, no experience with it in person. I would appreciate comments from those in the know. Should I stretch the budget a little bit and buy the Brown, or buy the Wesson and some ammo (if I can find it!)?

Thanks for opinions.
 

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If you're gonna go with stainless, I'd get the Wesson.

If you want carbon, get the Brown. I'd go with a carbon Brown over any Wesson any day.
 

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I am sure the Brown is a terrific pistol. I lusted for one for a long time but my desire to own one stopped when I acquired a Valor, I like it that much. The Brown is likely the better gun but the Valor has been great and is everything I could want in a 1911.
 

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Do you want a semi-custom or a regular (although nice) production gun?

Have you seen the new frame treatment for the Special Forces? They now have Chain Link, Chain Link II, and Chain Link III. Chain Link III is pretty much the same golf ball style treatment as the Chain Link II, but with smaller dimples. That makes it more aggressive than Chain Link, but less aggressive than Chain Link II. It was introduced in a newsletter that was sent out yesterday. It's also on the website now. Pricing looks to be the same for any of the three treatments. The new models also come with a new style slide stop.

I would choose the Special Forces with the Chain Link II or III treatment and a 10-8 rear sight (can be added as an option when ordered) over a Valor.
 

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The Brown GenIII finish is a spray and bake finish. The Dan Wesson Duty is a reatment, probably a nitride treatment that is much more resistant to to wear than any spray and bake.

I have both. Save your money and get the Dan Wesson. For the money you can't go wrong.
 

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If you really want the Brown then get it, it's a great gun, and is everything it is cracked up to be. If you really want it and get something else, you'll always wonder what would have happened if you had spent the extra money. But if you're just a regular shooter/carry guy, and would settle for 90% + of the Special Forces for 70% of the price, the Valor is the better choice. The SF is hand-fit and finished to a better degree, but you won't really notice much difference in the parts, or in the shooting. My vote would be the Valor.
 

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The Brown GenIII finish is a spray and bake finish. The Dan Wesson Duty is a reatment, probably a nitride treatment that is much more resistant to to wear than any spray and bake.

I have both. Save your money and get the Dan Wesson. For the money you can't go wrong.
I own a relatively new SF carry with gen3 (black coating). The quality of the pistol, it’s hand fitting and quality EB parts, some of which are used in DWs are first rate. The pistol has been flawless to 800 rounds so far and is a pleasure to shoot.

But the quote from Ecrevisse above is correct. If you are going black and the durability of the finish carries a lot of weight in your decision then a Valor might be your next pistol. Also something to consider is some DW 1911 models are hard to come by these days. Also of value in the equation is EB has a lifetime warranty that travels with the gun regardless of owner. You send in an EB and it’s back in your hands within a week. This is a typical EB encounter that was posted today http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=440430
 

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The Brown ,for Pure Yee-haw. I have both,love the Brown......You need to shoot them to know for your self. Don't take anyones word for it. Your not the same as me,to each their own. You'll be able to tell one from other by feel alone....Just like your favorite Bourbon...SMOOOTH. regards k.
 

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I was at a store in Phoenix awhile back. They had a sweet Ed Brown with a bobbed grip. I reeeelly liked that gun. I did not like the $3,000 price tag plus tax - would have been something like $3250 OTD.

I bought a DW VBob from Buds for something like $1625.

I think if I can save up about 1/2 million toward retirement, then I will treat myself to an Ed Brown. But to be honest, until one is in a position where they don't need to work anymore and can spend uncontrollably, it's a little hard to justify owning such a piece of gun jewelry.

So says the lady with 4 Rolex's. :rolleyes:
 

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Both are fine 1911`s

If I was choosing between the two it would be the Special Forces
 

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Both are great -- I love my Dan Wesson and owners of Ed Brown love them as well. I could afford either and went with Dan Wesson only because I really love the V-Bob. Go with whatever model of either manufacturer that really makes you giddy and enjoy shooting it!
 

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Good points from all above. Both guns are excellent examples of a 1911. My money would go to the Special Forces if I could get either.
 

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As i have "handled" and shot more 1911 pistols, I am amazed differently these pistols which look so similar, can just feel different, and shoot differently, in my hands. There are subtle variations in 1911's from various manufacturers, often not visible to my eyes, that make one feel just more "right" than another.

So i suggest, if possible, put each one in your hands, close your eyes, and just see if one or the other fits you better. Both of your choices are fine guns. But i suspect one or the other will feel better in your grip.

All the best....
 

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Rephrase your question from "Which one?" to "Which one first?" You have the money for the Brown, the DW will be easier to save up for in the future.

Full disclosure: I'm an addict and if you follow my advise, you're likely to become one too. So take it for what it's worth.

Both are great guns. I have 2 EBs and 2 DWs. You just can't go wrong with either.

Good luck.
 

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Hmm, interesting post...or at least the timing of it. I just did receive my EB SF II, SS with Gen III treatment. It is a great looking and feeling pistol, and so far, I'm pleased with it. It's so new (two days old), I have not yet had the chance to shoot it.

While waiting for it to arrive, I had many "second thoughts", bordering on regrets, about the order of such an expensive pistol. I looked at the Valor and Specialist pistols and thought, "This is what I should have purchased".

I own a DW Guardian and Eco. They're both fantastic. The Brown was ordered last April. It has a few custom touches done to it, one of which, ironically is plain sided slide, just like the current DW pistols. The duty treatment on the DW is far superior to the EB Gen III. If you're going to use it only as a range pistol (like me), it's more of a moot point. My Guardian gets carried a lot, and I'm very pleased with it. Both DW's have a Duty treatment of the slide (alloy frames) The Valor will be completely Duty Treated

The Brown and DW feel very similar in my hands. I don't think that's coincidence, as I know there are (or were) some EB parts used in Dan Wessons for years. I think they share a similar geometry, if you will. Baers feel different than Wilsons, different than Nighthawks, etc.

Both companies will support their product, the slight nod maybe going to the EB. If you need custom touches, the Brown has the edge, or you send off the DW for custom, third party work. Six of one, half dozen of the other...

I'll never get rid of the Brown. I had it built for me, and will pass it down to my son. I know it's going to be a favorite no doubt, and I'm proud to own it. IF I had it to do all again, and using a more conservative financial perspective, I would very likely buy the Valor.
 

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I own both and both are fine pistols.

If you are COMFORTABLE in stretching the budget, then buy the Brown with no regrets.

But if stretching the budget makes you think twice, then the Valor is a fantastic gun for the money.
 

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Valors are great. The Ed Brown is another level. If you can't tell the difference, You'll love the Valor. If you can tell the difference, then a Ed Brown is must have option. Ed brown is much more money for some, very subtle improvements. The Valor used to use almost entirely EB parts. More in house parts since fire. Ed Brown is a better gun.
I've had Valors. Very loyal owners, some want to say it is something it is not.
Every brand has a following. Most of the REAL differences you won't realize until 50 thousand rounds.
(which is why I like my Les Baer!)
 
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