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What model do I have?

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I just purchased a used Springfield (pic below). It is parkerized and has the mil-spec slide, but also has a commander hammer, aluminum 3-hole trigger, and modern beavertail grip safety. Are these parts after market parts, or does Springfield make any models that are somewhere between a mil-spec and loaded pistol? Any idea what the model number would be?

It also came with Ashley Pro-Express tritium sights, stipled frontstrap and mainspring housing, action job, Kim Ahrend cocobolo double-diamand grips, 4 shooting star mags, Bianchi IWB holster, and 15 rounds of hydra shok ammo. Gun is in excellent condition. I paid $505. Curious if I got a good deal or not. Thanks.





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If it has the mil-spec slide it would be mil-spec right?
I dont think they make a model in between the loaded and the mil-spec. Of course, judging by your description and the picture that the gun had been customized bt the previous owner. A good way to indicate the model would be the serial numbers. BTW, have you shot it yet?
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Hmm, looks good. How much use has it had? I take it no manual? Put some rounds through it, give us a RR. If it gobbles the lead and groups nicely i'd say good deal. OTOH if it explodes in your hand i'd say you've been ripped off!


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Don't belive SA offers anything in this configuration. From the picture though, it appears to have been well done. Adding up the cost of the parts, installation (if it's as good as the picture looks), and extras, I'd say you got a real good deal.
I finally got to the range today with my new pistola, and I couldn't be more pleased. I didn't measure my groups, but they looked to be around 1" at 15 yrds, which is good for me. I shot 100 rounds without a problem.

When inspecting my casings, I did notice a diagonal ding on the side of almost every one. Some were more pronounced than others. Any idea what might be causing that?

Concerning the model number, I e-mailed Springfield asking for any information they could provide, but have not heard back from them.

To answer your questions Simeon, the pistol does not look like it's seen a lot of use. The bore is excellent, and all other parts seem to be in near-new condition. I got the original papers and the blue case as well.

Thanks for all your help.
Originally posted by Hays:

When inspecting my casings, I did notice a diagonal ding on the side of almost every one. Some were more pronounced than others. Any idea what might be causing that?
If its a mil-spec slide...possibly the lack of a lowered and flared ejection port???
Thanks for your post Vapors750.

Here is the other profile of this gun. As you can see, it already has a lowered and flared ejection port. Any other ideas? I think I may post this in the gunsmithing section as well. Thanks.

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Originally posted by Hays:
Thanks for your post Vapors750.

Here is the other profile of this gun. As you can see, it already has a lowered and flared ejection port. Any other ideas? I think I may post this in the gunsmithing section as well. Thanks.
OK, so much for that idea! I suppose the other possibilities would be the face angle on the ejector possibly not being correct or possibly the tension on the extractor not correct. You might try looking over the FAQ on extractor tension and make sure thats correct. Maybe the the tension is too high and the case is getting "hammered" into the slide when it ejects. If it gets really high, you'll start having FTF problems.
Hays

You did real good on that buy! Looks like a Brown "Wedge" mainspring housing too.

Ditto Vapors - the brass mark sounds like an ejection port ding, if it's on the side of the casing. Even with a flared one you can get marks depending on how the brass rolls out. That'd be my guess anyway.

Enjoy!

JSP
If it runs, you got a good deal. If it doesn't run you got a good deal. You got a good deal.....Don't gloat..it's impolite.
Yeah...what he said...Dongloat...Shoot...the...crap...out...of...it......


Who cares about the cases, as long as they aren't ruined...If you want to put up a picture, maybe we could help...Don't "change" anything if it's shootin' ok?

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I received a reply from Springfield Armory today. My pistol was manufactured in 10/96 and is a PB9108 (mil-spec). All of the features I mentioned above, with the exception of the flared and lowered ejection port, are not stock.

Concerning my dented cases, I appreciate your suggestions. Since I'm not very familiar with 1911s, I'm going to let a friend of mine that is take a look at the face angle of the ejector and extractor tension. I'll post what he finds.

Thanks for your help.

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Not stock, eh? I had a NIB, still-tagged Compact configured almost identically. It had the Mil-Spec's finish and sights, cone barrel, extended thumb safety, old-style commander hammer, and extended (not beaver-tail) grip safety. It also came with checkered wood grips, whereas the Mil-Specs generally come with plastic grips.

Me thinks some of those "not stock" features might just be stock except for your Ashley sights, stipling, action job, and grips. I'm thinking maybe a limited run before they came out with their full-out "Loaded" guns.

My full-size Mil-Spec, on the other hand, is bone stock.

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