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.............er I mean lesser expensive for first timer. Hi all, new here but veteran of other places. I've been plinking with a 22/45 for years and feel the need for the real thing, finally. The only mandatory requirements are that is goes bang when asked to, and has a slide that will accommodate aftermarket sights, or has adjustable ones already. Does NOT need an ambi safety or mag realease. The GI variants are out of the discussion, and I have narrowed down to a few, RIA Tactical, SAM Elite or Commodore, PT 1911, and STI Spartan. I know you get what you pay for, I have some spendy wheelers and L/R pistols, but this is a toy for now and may lead to bigger and better things down the road. The SAM is 50 bucks less than the RIA which is 100 bucks less than the PT which is 100 bucks less than the STI. Is the SAM worth a shot, etc? Thanks, Rod.
 

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I have been int he same boat, and my research tells me that the Taurus or the RIA is the best gun for the money. The SAM pistols tend to have softer internal parts, and in case you get one of those, they have no customer service and Century Arms will most likely not help unless its broke when you get it. The Taurus is all forged, which is nice, and has a prettier look about it. The RIA is good and if you don't want a series 80 firing system, then it is probably the one you want. Personally I don't mind a firing pin safety.
 

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Full series 70 design is always the better choice, IMO.
I've heard (witnessed one) so much mishap with firing pin safety equiped 1911's.

The RIA Tactical is the one I'de get if I'm in the market for one. STI's Spartan is the best buy, though.
 

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RIA. This is the perfect gun for a beginner, or even a pro with little money.
 

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I'm quite pleased with my SAM Commodore. The grips are all I care to really change. Different sights wouldn't hurt, but a small drill and some obnoxious nail polish made them plenty functional. The machine work is reasonably clean and it hasn't hiccupped yet. Accuracy improves with each magazine (I suspect this has more to do with the operator than the machine). I look forward to putting a bunch more rounds through it.

I did detail strip it before ever firing it and dug some crud out of the frame in the grip safety area, but it wouldn't have interfered with mechanical operations in any way.
 

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I vote for the RIA Tactical, just because I have 3 RIA's and love 'em. No Tac though. I've also heard that Armscor and High Standard pistols come out of the same factoryas RIA, same guns with different markings and details. All high quality and affordable.
 

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"Cheapie" offends me! :)
If you'll take this old-timer's advise, a couple of hundred dollars is NOTHING in the long run when it comes to quality and longevity. Put those Starbucks, CD's, and DVD dollars in a coffee can. You'll be amazed what you can afford in one year! You DO get what you pay for in the 1911 world.
 

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The RIA tactical or the PT1911 would make a great first 1911. I have a PT1911 and it's a great gun for the money. Everything I've read from the RIA owners says they are fine guns also. Get the one that you can get the best deal on or the one that has the features you like. Then enjoy shooting them.:rock:
 

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I'll never put down a man's chosen weapon. But when they say "For The Money", they're just telling me that they're cheap. If you're gonna spend $300 for a pistol, it only takes a little more sacrifice to buy a $600 Colt, Springer, or slightly used Kimber. Quit renting those pornos, buying Starbucks, going out for dinner, or doing those $8/per head movies. You could save enough to buy a new Ed Brown in a year!
 

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Welcome to the forum!!!!

What ever one you get - I would be most leary of the SAM for service. Taurus is a good pistol but customer service leaves a lot to be desired. Just search some of the service posts. They run well, but if you get one pray you will not need to get it serviced.
The best fit and finish for what you listed would be the STI Spartan-$550 to $600 The second best choice would be the RIA Tactical - $385 to $425.

I have the STI and a few RIA's and another choice is the RIA Match - same pistol as the STI Spartan - discounting a few cosmetics and RIA internals versus STI internals - both are well made and run reliably as does the RIA tactical. The Tactical is a production pistol, the Match and the Spartan (built on the same line by RIA as the Match) are hand fitted with SS match grade chrome lined barrels. :rock:

Sorta like a Toyota versus a Lexus, If it runs reliably - is accurate - ummmm well its your money - :biglaugh:
 

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If you just gotta have it right now get the RIA Tactical. Others have given you better advice. Save your money a bit and get a Kimber. You can get a basic Kimber new for $679. Neither the RIA Tactical/Spartan nor the Taurus are in the same class as a Kimber.
I just bought another Kimber the other day. It is a fixed sight Stainless model. It will place 5 shots on a 2" Shoot-N-Cee at 25 yds.
 

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Neither the RIA Tactical/Spartan nor the Taurus are in the same class as a Kimber.
I just bought another Kimber the other day. It is a fixed sight Stainless model. It will place 5 shots on a 2" Shoot-N-Cee at 25 yds.
I have a Kimber Stainless II that shoots that good. However, my RIA GI model will do the exact same thing. RIA makes a good gun. This advice about waiting and saving money for a "better" 1911 is all well and good, if that is what you want. But, if you need a gun now, and you don't have a lot of money, then buy the RIA with confidence. My RIA was just as accurate and had less FTB/FTE/FTF than my much more expensive Kimber. I love both of them, but if I was on a strict budget, I would have bought the RIA first.
 

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HI

Plus 1 on the RIA Tactical. Mine shoots well, the fixed sights are off, and I need an arched mainspring housing. Otherwise, it's a carry gun. No failures to feed etc using Ball ammo.
 

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Here are my "cheapies". Griffon Commander, $300. High Standard GI, $379.(borrowed pic, my High Standard comes in tomorrow)





I also have a RIA GI, and just sold the RIA GI in .38 super. I may part with the RIA GI and upgrade to a RIA Tactical. I really like the plain vanilla look of the GI models, but the High Standard seems more "GI-ish" to me with its checkered wood grips and the small roll markings. So, thats a good excuse to add a tactical...right??

The way I see it, if Armscor builds it, and Ivan backs it, its worth having. :rock:


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