[PM 7]

I was reading a article tonight and they were talking about the SA Profesional model. In it, they stated that the "right side of the slide stop pin if flat where it normally protrudes from the frame, with a countersink around the slide stop hole." Any particular reason for this that anyone can think of? is this just to make it slicker as far as protruding surfaces? Any drawbacks or advantages? just curious

Stay safe all!

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[Jim V]

If you were to rest your finger on the right side of the frame, it would sit on the end of the stuc. Shortening the stud to frame width and counter sinking around it still allows the slide stop to be removed but prevents it being accidently moved out of place. At least that is the theory.

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[Sheldon]

I'm a lefty and use the typical IPSC pistol two handed grip with the left thumb resting on top of the right thumb. If I accidentally press my right thumb up against the frame of the pistol it will hit that spot right on the slide stop and sometimes push it out enough to lock up the slide. I now consciously angle both thumbs out away from the pistol and have not had any problems since. I did flatten one of my slide stops once to prevent this from happening, but found I had the same problem as soon as I tried anyone elses pistol which wasn't also modified. I found it better to modify my hold as it eliminated my troubles in all cases then.

 

[Hilton GZ]

A downside to this modification is that it makes the gun harder to take down.

 

[strider]

Originally posted by Hilton GZ:
A downside to this modification is that it makes the gun harder to take down.

Only if you don't chamfer the hole.

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[This message has been edited by strider (edited 11-05-2001).]

 

[DT Guy]

I'm no pro, but isn't reducing the thickness of the frame at the slide stop hole going to reduce the life of the frame?

I thought the forces transferred from the slide stop to the frame, through the slide stop mounting hole, were rather intense. I know I've seen frames with the 'other' side cracked in this area.

I'd be curious to hear a more experienced opinion...

Larry

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[Tucker Gunleather]

I have never seen a 1911 frame cracked at the slide stop hole but I have heard of it. What have you seen?

Most cracks occur at the dust cover just under the front of the frame rail on the left side. Some say it's due to dust cover flex over time. It is a self-limiting crack which stops on its own after about 3/16". I have had two very high use frames do that and had them welded up successfully.

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[Vingab]

The Valtro has that set up stright from the factory. But it does make take down a little cumbersome.

 

[Rosco Benson]

I don't like this modification. Not only does it not look "right", but it doesn't strike me as necessary. It seems unlikely that a properly-detented slide stop is not going to get pushed out by the shooter's finger using it as a point on which to register.

Rosco

 

[Anthony Lombardo]

Rosco,
I disagree.

After all, very few 1911's, even custom ones have a detented slide stop.

Many 1911's have slide stops that can be pushed out inadvertently becaue of wear on the top of the slide stop tab.

Also, it is a bad place to put your finger in the "ready" position, as Hackathorn
claims to have seen many malfs in training classes from that.

It is also the place most people lay their index finger when clearing a malfunction.
Under stress, it can induce a lock-up if the pin is pushed out, yadda yadda.

Cosmetically, I like it. I also like the other pins flattened as well. A little bit cleaner in my estimation.

no one ever needed a "speed takedown" of their 1911. This is another little mod that in my opinion sets the masters apart from some of the other pistolsmiths.
But hey, to each his own.

 

[Sammy Fan]

The only problem with the Valtro set up is that they shortened the slide stop pin too much, now the end sits at the bottom of the chamfer and totally defeated its purpose.

 

[Tucker Gunleather]

"The only problem with the Valtro set up is that they shortened the slide stop pin too
much, now the end sits at the bottom of the chamfer and totally defeated its purpose."

My Valtro is fine. The slide stop pin is recessed slightly but I can easily push it enought to get a grip on it to remove it from the left.

 

[Dave Sample]

I like to do it because it looks nifty. It also indicates that a custom touch has been applied.The Big Guy pistolsmiths are getting desperate now to do new and wonderful things to a weapon has been around for 90 years and works pretty good for it's intended purpose right out of the box with GI Hardball ammo. We now have the scallops, the fish scales, the various kinds of machine work which is wonderful and requires very high levels of skill to execute, but adds very little to the practical aspect of the finest fighting hand gun there is . I really love the stuff these guys do now. They are the cat's meow! Keep up the good work!