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Why I will never own a .50 BMG

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I like to shoot. I don't "train" for a zombie invasion. I am not particularly afraid of a global disaster and I am not overly concerned about thugs robbing me. I am careful and aware but I like to shoot because, well it's fun and challenging. So, on a boring day with little to do I looked up the price of .50 BMG ammo. If I had a BMG as my primary plinker over the past 15 years or so, looking at how many .22LR, 9mm, 45ACP, 45 Colt, 41 and 44 mag, 30-30 and .308 I have put down range, it would have cost me about $400,000.00. Nearly a half a million dollars. I am glad they don't make an officers model Barrett for CC.
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Conferred with my officer buddy and another armor guy and there were NO M-60’s in Vietnam, period. Only M-60 lowers used in Vietnam were a bridging system and an engineering one.
Capt. Shelby Stanton’s Vietnam Order of Battle also states no M-60’s.
Here’s the forward of mine.

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I shot a bolt action in .50 BMG once that had a huge muzzle brake. I asked if the brake was removable (because the rifle was sort of sleek for that large a caliber) and the owner said "Sure...wanna try it?".

I think it was Mark Twain who said "Adventure, is the result of poor preparation" - well it was an adventure! the rifle weight about 12 lbs after removing the break and yes it KICKED! I only required one round to convince me the brake worked!

I owned a Fred Wells .510 Wells Express briefly - it was a beautiful gun but it had a 14+" L.O.P. and a 27" heavy barrel and weighed over 14 lbs. The recoil of a 650 gr. bullet at 2300 fps was not horrible but the rifle was so unhandy I traded it to a friend who is 6'5" and weighs 300 lbs! I traded for a 45-120 Sharps - not that kicks!

Later I bought a CZ 550 in .458 Win mag and had it rechambered to .458 Lott (they started chambering for that cartridge just a year later) - but the gun I got weighed 8.5 lbs! It was manageable in .458 WM but when I fired the first few Lotts (500 at 2300!) I saw stars (which indicate detaching a retina) and my right arm went numb! I added 2 lbs of mercury weights to the stock and no it is manageable - barely!

I likely should sell this gun, as I will never make it to Africa and I have plenty enough rilfles for Bear or Moose or Elk but I need something to keep the elephants out of the wife's rose garden...that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

I consider myself a real gun enthusiast but I too will likely never own a .50 BMG (I do have friends who have them, more power to them!).

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I didn’t know about the seeing stars thing, but it makes sense to me. That’s good information!
I'd like to have one. Honestly I'd like to have one for our oldest daughter. She's kind of the gun chick that everyone gathers around at the range. And everywhere else she goes...

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She has excellent taste in airplanes.
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She has excellent taste in airplanes.
The F4U is my favorite. And we have pretty good access to them so we do a lot of shoots with them. But the picture below is of the only surviving fighter from the attack on Pearl Harbor, December 7th, 1941. I'd like to do a real shoot with it. Get the girls all dressed up in proper attire etc.



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I've thought long and hard about a .338 Lapua Magnum or other big bore rifles. And not only money, but considering how far I have to travel to shoot a distance where I feel like my caliber is valid, I've completely de-prioritized any big bore rifles. I simply don't have a life in which I can afford or be bothered to shoot something like that. I now have plans for two rifles in 6.5 Creed that I want to build but even then I still have them further down on my list of guns to buy behind a second AR and some other wishes.
Eight 50s in the P47 Thunderbolt. :cool:
Okay you win, but the 51 is faster. :LOL: Oh but wait. l just saw a film on the 47 where they had to take 2 of the M2s out of the 47 for weight. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
P-38’s shot down the most enemy A/C in WWII.
P-38’s shot down the most enemy A/C in WWII.
No, it was 3rd or 4th with approx 3880 kills. The P47 had approx the same number (different sites list different #s), while the F6f Hellcat was # 2 with 5,168 or 5,173 and the P51 Musting was # 1 with 5,944 or 5,954.

Here are a couple links:
US Army Fighters of World War II ranked by ‘kills’

I knew a guy that was on an M60 in Vietnam (actually I suspect they were operating across the border a little) but he was Army, Come to think on it, perhaps I assumed it was an M-60, it might have actually been an M-48. He said he didn't like the M-551 Sheridan (a sentiment that I've heard from many tankers).

I know some Marines but I have no idea if they had tanks, or if they did, which tanks. I do know a former marine who was in artillery. I do think I've seen pictures of Marines in Vietnam with M-48s.

Don't mean to imply I know a lot about tanks. My Dad worked at the Armor Board at Ft. Knox (as a civilian) up to around '65 or '66 but he went to another branch around then. I have seen a few of them at "firepower demonstrations" and for a long time there was a Marine tank regiment stationed at Ft. Knox - a friend wrangled a seat for my Dad (then retired), my Son and I to the Marine tank match at Yano range - there we were introduced to Hugh O'Brien who sat right in front of us - I did not know (until the speaker of the event told us) that Hugh was the youngest D.I. in the Marine Corps. It was quite a treat!

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We had M48s in 1st tank Bn. 1st Marine Div. All the pictures of armor w/3rd tank Bn 3rd Marine Div. we're M48s we were Uncle Sam's Misguided Children and the very last to get anything new. 😢
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