Seriously though, I am carrying this ammo in a Springfield Ultra Compact. It has a very low recoil. I would compare the recoil to the Federal Personal Defense 165 gr. The muzzle flash is also very low. The round is also extremely accurate. I grouped about 1” at 7 yards. I like the fact that this is a 230 gr bullet too. My question is has anyone ran any test on this brand of Winchester Ammo in the 45? I have found some info on the 9mm and 40 Cal, but not the 45.
I've got a couple of black boxes of Win subsonic hollowpoint "deep penetrator". Probably 10 yrs old, very large hollowpoint 230gr, "law enforcement" not black talon. They shoot very accurately, don't know about defense potential. I'll use Rangers for that.