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But does it really matter at this point? The media has already cast us as the bad guys even if massive injustice is done to us. We are all neo-nazi militiamen who deserve the worst punishment. Unfortunately our justice system has become so politicized already as we are seeing daily in the federal system.
Its a mess no doubt...No guarantees...But best to put odds in ones favor by not starting the violence (of course). It will depend on the state to some degree, but don't count on the vast majority people actually believing what the media wants people to believe. If that were true, POTUS would have never made it to POTUS. Loons will be loons but there is still about 1/2 the country who are not loons.
 

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For mass confiscation to happen, not only must the Second Amendment be repealed but also the Fourth Amendment as well. Unfortunately with the rise of socialism in this country the day may soon come when we have a leftist government who actually does that.
 

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For mass confiscation to happen, not only must the Second Amendment be repealed but also the Fourth Amendment as well. Unfortunately with the rise of socialism in this country the day may soon come when we have a leftist government who actually does that.
Not necessarily. Remember we have today 4 members of the USSC who believe the 2A does not apply to individual gun rights. Theoretically, if one more Leftist judge is added, the 2A could effectively be eliminated without actually repealing it. This is what I feared from a Hillary presidency.
 

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But does it really matter at this point? The media has already cast us as the bad guys even if massive injustice is done to us. We are all neo-nazi militiamen who deserve the worst punishment. Unfortunately our justice system has become so politicized already as we are seeing daily in the federal system.
I think the media is our biggest enemy without their dishonest steady stream of propaganda the left would not have the strong foothold they hold in our government. If they had always been honest and reported the truth many of the leftist leaders would have been defeated or imprisoned for their corruption.


War or no war I will not comply with any unconstitutional laws passed by lying corrupt leftist who would gladly imprison me just because I don't vote the way they want me to. If you allow yourself to be disarmed by these people you will be at their mercy and I really don't think they have any.
 

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If you allow yourself to be disarmed by these people you will be at their mercy and I really don't think they have any.
I agree completely. Stalin killed 20 million of his own people but he didn't hate them the way the Left in America hates us. They would have no problem killing us all if that is what it takes for them to have the type of dominance they seek.
 

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Pray for peace.

Prepare for war.

Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum - Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus
 

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I fully agree with this post.

I think the media is our biggest enemy without their dishonest steady stream of propaganda the left would not have the strong foothold they hold in our government. If they had always been honest and reported the truth many of the leftist leaders would have been defeated or imprisoned for their corruption.


War or no war I will not comply with any unconstitutional laws passed by lying corrupt leftist who would gladly imprison me just because I don't vote the way they want me to. If you allow yourself to be disarmed by these people you will be at their mercy and I really don't think they have any.
It used to be that if you owned one media outlet in a large city for instance. Say like a newspaper or radio station it was against the law to own another one like say a television station.

Well as luck would have it. Slick Willie changed all that. He signed into law a very big and all encompassing telecommunications act. Legislation was certainly needed at the time as cell phone usage, internet, cable and other media was really starting to take off. But the powers that be really slipped some things in there that were not all beneficial to you and I. An example of this is the fact that all cell phones sold in this country are required to have a GPS locator in them. So the whereabouts of any individual in the country that happens to be carrying a cell phone on them (turned on or not). Their whereabouts can be tracked at any time by the government. How convenient for them.

More to the matter at hand, all of the restrictions on ownership of media outlets was removed. The consequence being that 90% of all media outlets in this country are now owned by six individuals. Jeff Bezo's ownership of the Washington post is no accident.
 

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I think the media is our biggest enemy without their dishonest steady stream of propaganda the left would not have the strong foothold they hold in our government. If they had always been honest and reported the truth many of the leftist leaders would have been defeated or imprisoned for their corruption.

War or no war I will not comply with any unconstitutional laws passed by lying corrupt leftist who would gladly imprison me just because I don't vote the way they want me to. If you allow yourself to be disarmed by these people you will be at their mercy and I really don't think they have any.

When we say "the media"...

What we are really talking about is six people.
(Yes, there are more involved, but the "media" is owned by only six corporations - which are each controlled by one head.


https://www.dailyinfographic.com/the-illusion-of-choice-infographic


Today, six colossal media giants tower over all the rest. Much of the information in the chart below
comes from mediaowners.com. The chart below reveals only a small fraction of the media outlets
that these six behemoths actually own….
Time Warner
Home Box Office (HBO)
Time Inc.
Turner Broadcasting System, Inc.
Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.
CW Network (partial ownership)
TMZ
New Line Cinema
Time Warner Cable
Cinemax
Cartoon Network
TBS
TNT
America Online
MapQuest
Moviefone
Castle Rock
Sports Illustrated
Fortune
Marie Claire
People Magazine
Walt Disney
ABC Television Network
Disney Publishing
ESPN Inc.
Disney Channel
SOAPnet
A&E
Lifetime
Buena Vista Home Entertainment
Buena Vista Theatrical Productions
Buena Vista Records
Disney Records
Hollywood Records
Miramax Films
Touchstone Pictures
Walt Disney Pictures
Pixar Animation Studios
Buena Vista Games
Hyperion Books
Viacom
Paramount Pictures
Paramount Home Entertainment
Black Entertainment Television (BET)
Comedy Central
Country Music Television (CMT)
Logo
MTV
MTV Canada
MTV2
Nick Magazine
Nick at Nite
Nick Jr.
Nickelodeon
Noggin
Spike TV
The Movie Channel
TV Land
VH1
News Corporation
Dow Jones & Company, Inc.
Fox Television Stations
The New York Post
Fox Searchlight Pictures
Beliefnet
Fox Business Network
Fox Kids Europe
Fox News Channel
Fox Sports Net
Fox Television Network
FX
My Network TV
MySpace
News Limited News
Phoenix InfoNews Channel
Phoenix Movies Channel
Sky PerfecTV
Speed Channel
STAR TV India
STAR TV Taiwan
STAR World
Times Higher Education Supplement Magazine
Times Literary Supplement Magazine
Times of London
20th Century Fox Home Entertainment
20th Century Fox International
20th Century Fox Studios
20th Century Fox Television
BSkyB
DIRECTV
The Wall Street Journal
Fox Broadcasting Company
Fox Interactive Media
FOXTEL
HarperCollins Publishers
The National Geographic Channel
National Rugby League
News Interactive
News Outdoor
Radio Veronica
ReganBooks
Sky Italia
Sky Radio Denmark
Sky Radio Germany
Sky Radio Netherlands
STAR
Zondervan
CBS Corporation
CBS News
CBS Sports
CBS Television Network
CNET
Showtime
TV.com
CBS Radio Inc. (130 stations)
CBS Consumer Products
CBS Outdoor
CW Network (50% ownership)
Infinity Broadcasting
Simon & Schuster (Pocket Books, Scribner)
Westwood One Radio Network
NBC Universal
Bravo
CNBC
NBC News
MSNBC
NBC Sports
NBC Television Network
Oxygen
SciFi Magazine
Syfy (Sci Fi Channel)
Telemundo
USA Network
Weather Channel
Focus Features
NBC Universal Television Distribution
NBC Universal Television Studio
Paxson Communications (partial ownership)
Trio
Universal Parks & Resorts
Universal Pictures
Universal Studio Home Video
These gigantic media corporations do not exist to objectively tell the truth to the American
people. Rather, the primary purpose of their existence is to make money.

These gigantic media corporations are not going to do anything to threaten their relationships
with their biggest advertisers (such as the largest pharmaceutical companies that literally spend
billions on advertising), and one way or another these gigantic media corporations are always going
to express the ideological viewpoints of their owners.


Fortunately, an increasing number of Americans are starting to wake up and are realizing that the
mainstream media should not be trusted. According to a new poll just released by Gallup, the number
of Americans that have little to no trust in the mainstream media (57%) is at an all-time high.
 

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So why don't the Feds come down on those states that have legalized pot? I would think those folks who sell out of a store front would be easy targets.
 

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So why don't the Feds come down on those states that have legalized pot? I would think those folks who sell out of a store front would be easy targets.
Same can be said for "sanctuary" jurisdictions for illegals. Answer is the same, regardless:

Lack of political will. No more, no less. Nobody has had desire to do so.
 

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So why don't the Feds come down on those states that have legalized pot? I would think those folks who sell out of a store front would be easy targets.
Why don’t they come down on the governors of the states that support sanctuary cities? Or the mayors that run those cities? SCs are in violation of the Constitution and those governors and mayor are in violation as well. Plus, they let illegals get DLs now in some places which can easily give them the ability to vote.
 

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But Americans resisting mass gun confiscation will not need to defeat the feds.They would merely need to wait until government agents commit horrific blunders that turn millions more Americans against Washington. That pattern has repeated itself in American history in federal gun crackdowns gone awry.
I think if we hang for a while, that will play out. Good link cavelamb.
 

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Virginia? When the POS liberal retard Democraps take over, gun control first baby!
re: VA.. OBTW- SOMEBODY in VA voted these Democrat idiots into office. Yes, they almost all came in from DC area- too expensive to live there on Government salaries- so they infest VA and take over like the Muslims. Perhaps VA can last long enough to stop the Democrats- perhaps not. NOT voting has consequences too. it elects Democrats. Pretty much is the same treason as voting democrat
 

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The logistics of gun seizure in this country are mind boggling. The entirety of the military, plus the FBI, plus local law enforcement would have a hard time finding and removing firearms from every household. Also it would take all of those entities complying, and working in unison to even come close to mass confiscation. This is a long game people, make your words and your vote count.
 
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