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Ya see the new Colt 1911A1?

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Check out: http://www.colt.com/colt/html/a1a_m1911a1.html

I might be interested.

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Me too. I might also be interested in an Anaconda.

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Mike,
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I AM interested... gonna put a S&A mag chute on her... anyone interested in the funky lanyard loop MSH??? hehe
jus' kiddin' JimV

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I've got a Gunsite lanyard loop msh on my pre-series 80 Combat Commander. I like the option.
I called colt 6 months ago and asked customer service to call me when the first one is available so that I could get a low serial number. Whats the deal with them never calling me???? Anybody get a price yet??????
I saw one at the NRA show, the Colt people didn't want to talk to anyone besides themselves, that's not just my opinion but just about everyone that I've talked to that stopped by including my dealer. The gentlemen that I finally got to come over was polite but abrupt, he said the price would be around 1000.00 dollars, I didn't ask when they were going to ship.
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So they're bringing back the Python? I'm getting one!

Out of curiosity, why is the original 1911A1 going for about $1000 when the 1991 is going for about $550? Are they saving that much money in adding a firing pin block, MIM parts, and a plastic trigger? I'm a little confused where the extra money comes from with a gun that has less parts.

That is unless they are charging for the historical significance of the 1911A1, or charging whatever the market will bear.

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I think "whatever the market will bear" pretty well covers it. We/they have observed the "value" of GI 1911A1 pistols soaring due to whatever reason (I personally believe the flood of post-"Saving Private Ryan" afficianados with more money than common sense has played a major role). They know a good thing when they see it. They will sell all they can produce. So much the better if it keeps Colt viable. I personally won't be buying one.
I've decided against buying one also. For $1,000 you can almost buy the real thing. Why pay that much for a repro that likely won't increase in value? In the 70's Mauser brought back the Luger for a short while. Today those guns are still worth less than an old beat-up original!
Originally posted by Dogwhisperer5:
I think "whatever the market will bear" pretty well covers it. We/they have observed the "value" of GI 1911A1 pistols soaring due to whatever reason (I personally believe the flood of post-"Saving Private Ryan" afficianados with more money than common sense has played a major role). They know a good thing when they see it. They will sell all they can produce. So much the better if it keeps Colt viable. I personally won't be buying one.
Yep, I think that pretty well sums it up!
Regards SonnyD
I saw this gun in a local gunshop, he had a standing order for two as soon as they came out, he got them a week or so ago.
Yawn... It's really nothing special, and for $1000, you can have a real WW2 Colt in excellent condition. If I'm going to spend that kind of money, it's going to be a real shooter, or have historical significance, and this new Colt has neither.
I'll buy a used one for $650 in a coupla months but I aint payin' what amounts to a surcharge! It's almost like a new popular automobile. you can wait and pay below sticker or you can be the first on your block and pay OVER RETAIL!

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Definitely looks nice, However the one I saw was not equal of a Springfield or Kimber. Nice roll marks, but the quality on the one I examined was lacking. I, too have been ignored by Colt at numerous S.H.O.T, NRA, and IACP shows. I've also never had a call returned nor correspondance answered. I was a die hard Colt fan, I wanted Colt Custom Shop products. I've never seen a company excel as Colt has in driving away customers. IMHO it may be easier to find a original pre 70 Colt, and definitely cheaper.
This is exciting stuff. I may just get TWO 1911A1s! The only thing that bothers me is the pre-70 series firing system. I kind of like having a firing pin block (blasphemy, I know, I know). But, then again, if anybody is dumb enough to drop his gun, or secure it so loosely that it drops on its own, probably shouldn't have one, so my hesitations is probably all ... in my head! --Brian
As long as a pre-Series 80 is using an extra-power firing pin spring the chances of having an AD are very remote. Most cases of AD's have involved pistols with fatigued standard power springs.
Havoc, is there really a MSP that has a lanyard loop on it? Before everyone laughs(I know too late for that) I ride a Mtn. Bike on duty..thats why I was asking about a lanyard. I have one on my current duty gun and it has kept me from losing my gun. I wrecked one night and the snap on the holster relased..letting my pistol fly. But not too far. I have been using it for about a year now with no problems. Maybe we should get the FBI some for thier weapons.


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Mainspring housings with a lanyard loop aren't too hard to come by. Gun Parts Corp. usually has them, since they are affiliated with Auto-Ordinance which makes a WW2 pistol replica using a MSH w/loop. I bought one and stuck it on a Colt of mine. Aside from that, used parts vendors at gun shows have them with regularity.

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Our shop just got four of the 1911A1 WWII Reproductions, and sold the first one in less than two hours. It appears there is a market for a quality "reissue" of a WWII 1943 GI Pistol, in it's original pasteboard box and waxed paper. They are issued by the Colt Custom Shop, which is how they get around the "no modern safety devices" legalities.

Part of the appeal is definitely nostalgia, but if the run is limited to only 4000 guns, I would wager that the Colt 1911 collectors will keep the price up. It is, a "collectable", and there are plenty of people who like that sort of thing. Time will tell - Pace Car Corvettes, for example went to double their selling price and then back to a little over the original sticker.

As for quality, this is a pretty exact reproduction of a 1943 Colt military production gun - right down to the inspectors marks - and it is definitely tighter and smoother than any WWII GI Colt I've ever handled. As for comparing it to a Kimber or Springfield (which isn't it's market) I'd a lot rather take this one out of the box and go to war with it than take any of the clones. Current production Colts are the best 1911s ever made, period. Don't let an overly tight match fitted slide fool you about "quality". There's a bit more to it than that.

It will be interesting to see how the market treats this model. I would vote for Colt to reissue the completely original pre-WWI 1911, (and lower the price a couple hundred bucks). The original guns are true historical artifacts and getting too valuable for regular, hard use - thus a true reissue that you could afford to shoot daily would be nice.

Always glad to see an old friend back in town, Col. Colt

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Col. Colt - Even though Colt literature refers to "original serrations" on some parts, someone who has bought one says the hammer and slide stop are checkered; which is it?
Moving to the "Colt" forum....
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