Ok. I’m in line… 😀

 

I hope the timeline is more accurate than this one. The 1911 has been out for some time, but the article is dated January 9.

Tisas USA Introduces Museum-Grade 1911A1 Replica | Tactical Wire

 

The fact is that Inglis never made a pistol like that during WWII. That is more of FN T Series. As good as it might be, it bothers me that SDS try to put Inglis name on something that is not historical correct as it claimed in the press release.

 

Ingliss built the p35 during ww2 in Canada for the British army.

 

So who does the product support and warranty work for SDS?

114 Sherlake Lane, Suite 18, Knoxville, TN appears to be the address for SDS and all their sub-entities. This is a relatively small portion of an industrial warehouse park. I seriously doubt they're doing bench work there.

TISAS had some significant problems with the BR9 when they first imported them via. LKCI, as the importer was not at all able to support either warranty work or parts.

At lease SA has some actual manufacturing capacity in the US, and not just a small warehouse.

 

...At lease SA has some actual manufacturing capacity in the US, and not just a small warehouse.

Springfield Armory has no forge nor casting eqpmt. They "assemble" and finish.

 

We have beat this "Made In America" legal nomenclature topic to death here. Do a Search, please.

 

Ok, I did a search. Turned up a lot of really cool threads about Chinese Benchmade knife copies and one on primers. Great success!!

Or, since you obviously possess some information that can shed light on this discussion, maybe you could just give us the cliff notes. How much does an American gun company have to do to a pile of imported parts to qualify the finished product as "Made in USA?" I'm not challenging; I'm seeking information. Is the answer nothing? If it is, great! Just want to know.

 

Firearms - Guides - Importation & Verification of Firearms, Ammunition - Firearms Verification Overview | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Previous Page Table of Contents Download the Guidebook Next Page Firearms Verification Firearms Verification Overview Marking Requirements Serial Number Must be conspicuously engraved, cast or stamped (impressed) on the firearm frame or receiver The serial number cannot duplicate the serial...

www.atf.gov

 

Literally nothing in the link you posted has any information about what legally delineates an imported firearm (which is required to have the country of origin on it) and a domestically produced firearm (which only needs address information of the USA-based manufacturer). That's the information I'm looking for.

 

I am playing golf this weekend with Bill Gates and I shall mention to him that Google is non-working in your town.

 

Not that anyone cares or will believe it, but after spending way too much of my life digging through posts on a SA-specific forum the best consensus seems to be that SA-35 frames and slides are coming to SA as 80% forgings from our Turkish cousins at Tisas and then finish machined, fit, and finished in Geneseo. This jibes with what I and many others had speculated, but of course if your information contradicts that then obviously we should defer to the word of your LGS's former employee's sister's aunt whose brother-in-law used to shoot pool with a guy who wore a Springfield Armory cap and said that SA-35s are completely made in Turkey and SA is thumbing its nose at the FTC. Either way, I like mine.

 

Photos of the new Inglis on SDS Imports webpage, at least the case colored one:

Inglis GP-35, 9MM

An exquisite example of the Inglis HI-Power.

sdsimports.com

Is it a Girsan? Dunno as there appears to be no mag disco safety.

 

That looks like good price for what one gets. Last time I seen something similar was used High Standard 1911 .45ACP. The price was $1100.

 

In regards to the SA35. I'd chalk that up to internet rumor started by Richard Mann from gun digest who "...but I have it on good authority ".
Until SA either proves or disproves it, it's only rumor and suspicion.

 

Regardless, SA does not make frames nor slides. Period. They buy from someone else and IMHO it is Tisas. However, maybe there is "wiggle room" in the SA/Tisas deal and the new Inglis is actually a Tisas?

 

I guess SDS now registered Inglis as a company name because the original John Inglis Co. was no longer existed. Inglis went back to make household products in Canada after WWII. Subsequent bought buy Whirlpool. Inglis name only survives as a washer dryer brand in whirlpool Canada.

 

SDS was the importer for the Tisa HP clones several years ago. I'm thinking these are those, a true "inglis" model Hi Power would have the internal extractor like the pre 1963 models. That has the more modern external extractor

 

SDS was the importer for the Tisa HP clones several years ago...

LKCI Limited in Heath, Ohio was the importer for the Regent (Tisas) BR9.

 

Well, I have a couple or so of the true 'Inglis' Hi-Powers. I will stay with them instead of buying a cheap clone.

 

I am pretty sure the new Inglis is a Girsan after carefully examining photos. Just my 2 cents. But, the Girsan is a great clone. Better than the Argentine. I really am not personally concerned about the maker as much as I am the reliability, quality & looks ( in that order) for any clone of any pistol. Let the purists chase the outlandishly priced originals. Me, I want a shooter.

 

Could be nothing.... but Military Armament Corp (MAC) has the same address as what is listed on the Tisas USA website. Same phone as well.

Both list contact info as
114 Sherlake Lane
Suite 18
Knoxville, TN 37922
(865) 604-6894

Military Armament Corp.

Tisas USA - Means Quality - 1911 Pistols - PX-9 GEN 3 Pistols

 

Could be nothing.... but Military Armament Corp (MAC) has the same address as what is listed on the Tisas USA website. Same phone as well.

Both list contact info as
114 Sherlake Lane
Suite 18
Knoxville, TN 37922
(865) 604-6894

Military Armament Corp.

Tisas USA - Means Quality - 1911 Pistols - PX-9 GEN 3 Pistols

So does Spandau Arms, Tokarev USA.. Inglis is it's own division, but not made by Tisas.

 

FWIW (a lot IMHO), the Tisas rep. here on the Forum just stated that the new Inglis is NOT made by Girsan.

https://www.1911forum.com/threads/shot-show-2024.1062453/#post-13889368

So, if it isn't Tisas nor Girsan then...... Regardless, can't wait to see a hands on review!!!

 

I didn't even get to photo them before they got loaded up for shot.

 

"Inglis" is how you say casehardened in Canadian?
I was expecting a hump under the rear sight, and a stock lug in the backstrap; what's Inglis about it?

 

We're just getting warmed up there.

 

A little maple leaf decal on the front strap?

 

More info and photos:

Inglis Hi-Power Returns to US Market: First Look - Firearms News

Military Armament Corporation and Parent Company SDS Imports reintroduces Legendary firearm.

www.firearmsnews.com

 

I like that color case hardened finish.

 

The case hardened finish is definitely cool looking. I did wonder if it was chemical case hardening, or if is bone & charcoal.

 

Inglis logo, not an Inglis Hi Power. Slot it, Tangent sights, and Parkerize.

 

Yet we have all used the term "Browning Hi Power" when in fact the Browning co. never made anything. A name is a name is a name. To the Gov't we are all just a SSN.

 

A video to get the juices flowing!!

 

SHOT Show video where SDS states their P-35 model retails for less than $500!! He says that they are not made by Tisas and that they have a new vendor.

Go to 5:35 mark:

 

So that's 3 different Turkish Hi Powers now? I've only ever had shooting experience with a Girsan. Compared to my vintage FNH MKIII, there's hardly any noticeable difference other than hammer profile, it even has MKIII sight cuts, large ambi safety and firing pin safety in it.

I've never shot a Tisas, but they looked to be T series clones, all the way down to the tiny sights and stubby safety (Girsan was smart to copy the newer MKIII for this reason.)

This gun looks to follow the MKIII clone trend as well (rebranded Girsan, perhaps?)

Unless SDS wants to go the extra mile and add things like internal extractors and hump back slides, I don't really see a reason to choose this over a Girsan, unless the price is much lower.

 

So that's 3 different Turkish Hi Powers now?...

We don't know at this point that it's made in Turkey as the Tisas rep here on the Forum said it is not made by Girsan and the SDS rep in the video said it's not made by Tisas.

Regardless, here is a better SHOT Show vid of all four Inglis models: