You leave the original document unsigned and date left blank. You sign and date a copy when you use your license for purchasing a C&R firearm. As far as laminating your original 03 license, I never have. I keep mine in a clear plastic document holder like you get at most office supply stores.
Gary

 

Damn! I signed my original copy. Well as I said in my original rant.. looks like I'm going to be hitting up the gentleman that approved this and requesting another copy literally the day after I got it. I'll just explain to him what I did and hopefully he can be a little understanding and doesn't give me too much **** over it.
There are so many C&R eligible firearms that I'm looking into getting I figured it would just make sense to get this particular license to save a few bucks and get the Firearms delivered directly to my home.
The license was cheap.. but the Firearms I want they certainly aren't.

1. WWII Era M1911A1 .45

2. Vietnam Era M14

3. Vietnam Era M1 Garand

4. Vietnam Era M1 Carbine

That's the bucket list for the C&R firearms. Granted I've got lots of the 1911 pistols. But I do not have one that is actually a military issued firearm from any era. And given my bloodline and who I'm related to.. I believe that it's fitting for me too obtain one.

Anyway thank you for reading my rant and I greatly appreciate your response.

Stay safe, keep carrying and God bless.

 

Just a note, a signed copy sent to Brownells and Graffs & Sons can leverage some discounts. Not so much anymore with Brownells but with Graffs , it is very much an advantage to a C&R Lic. Holder for reloading supplies / gear / gun parts. This alone is worth the cost of the 3 yr license fee. Years back I bought a Dillon 650 for 30% off MSRP at Graffs.

 

If you have a color scanner simply scan the original that you signed. Then edit the output file and delete the signature and date. Save both the original and a color print of the edited version and use that version to copy and email out to the sellers you buy from.

 

You can cross the "Vietnam era M14" off your list as they are all machine guns. Unless you really want to pony up the cost of a transferable M14.

 

sort of. there are some (few) that were 'cleansed' usually though national guard, or civilian service rifle. i have seen maybe 10 or so. usually at matches. also the very early springfield armory m1a's had all gi parts including at least one that had a military receiver that had been modified and passed. what these things cost, i have no idea, but it must be substantial. these are rifles i have actually had my hands on. a few i got to shoot. they were semi only. its been 40 years ago also.

 

I saw an M14 with a selector and bipod at Collector's Firearms a few years back and they only wanted $38,000.00 for it. I passed.

 

That was a bargain price.

 

I've had my C&R for years, you can't beat having a Garand show up at your door.

 

I believe you can get away with copying the original with your signature, and then sign and date the copy you're sending out. They want an original signature, so that qualifies.

 

Just be sure to keep all firearms you acquire or sell logged in a bound book. In other words, a book with no removable pages. It doesn't need to be anything special, just a Mead notebook with a glued spine is sufficient. Write down the firearm make and model, caliber, barrel length, serial number, date acquired/sold, and who you bought it from/sold it to along with their C&R or FFL number if possible.

 

Or these days you can also use a spreadsheet as long as you keep copies of every change. The electronic method also makes keeping duplicate copies offsite for security.

 

that is probably a good plan for all of us. thanks.

 

Hello and greetings from central New Hampshire!

So the only Federal firearm license that I have is the C&R license. I got it in the mail yesterday. I cut out the little wallet sized card. I laminated it because everything in my wallet that's not made of plastic tends to get destroyed.
My question is this.. is it acceptable and/or legal to laminate the large license?

Strictly for preservation purposes. I don't need to have it in a frame because I'm not a licensed dealer. So it'll more than likely end up in a folder but I have a tendency of moving things around. And I don't want to destroy it and have to request another one.

One more question.. after I signed the damn thing and dated it... I read somewhere that those of us holding a number three license shouldn't ever sign them in case we need to photocopy and mail a copy somewhere or fax a copy somewhere that way we can sign it each time with the appropriate date. Is that accurate? If so I guess it's time to email the individual that approved it and request another one already. And if that's the case hopefully it doesn't piss him off.

But hey.. you don't know if you don't ask. I read it and it said to sign it so I did. 🤷

Anyway I do appreciate any and all assistance with this.

Instead of laminating, keep it in a clear plastic document protector. Copies from a laminated document may be distorted. You can find them at Office Depot, etc. Re signing, the ATF guideline for 01 and 03 is to leave the original unsigned and then sign copies noting the s/n being transferred. But most people prefer to sign the original. You’re good either way.

 

My original C&R lapsed. I had a dozen or more items on it. With this new one, I only have a few and only one that i actually used my C&R to avoid a background check. If I buy a C&R eligible item from a stubborn dealer who insists on an instant check, do I have to list that in my record book? Likewise if I buy something at a private sale, do I have to list that as well? Questions, Questions...

 

If a C&R eligible item is transferred though an FFL you don't enter it. You only enter the guns that you actually used your C&R to acquire.

 

I've come across a lot of 01 FFLs who refuse to honor a C&R even though they're supposed to. Gunbroker is full of them.

 

I tried to use it at this local shop but they didn't want to, citing too much increased paperwork. It was $5 and took 15 minutes for it to go through, but I shouldn't have had to wait. I should have made him take $5 off, but I didn't feel like arguing over it.

There was only one other firearm that I bought with my new C&R, a 1915 / 1920 dual date DWM P.08. Everyhing else was before this license or private sale.

 

It's complete BS that a C&R creates more paperwork. If anything it creates less. An 01 FFL simply treats it like any other FFL , logging the gun out of their books and entering the 03 license info. Far less hassle than dealing with the 4473, NICS, waiting period and all. Some FFLs are simply unfamiliar with 03 licenses and don't want to deal with them. Either that or they worry that they're easily faked or something, since you can't verify one using the FFL EZ-Check system.