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RIA 1911 A1 Stainless steel 45 ACP Review

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I just purchased a Rock Island 1911 officer size 45 ACP in stainless steel for a gift to my oldest Grandson. Here are the pros and cons I found with the pistol. Cons first. This is a CA. compliant pistol that must pass a 3 foot drop test in my state. It had a heavy duty firing pin spring installed to pass that test. I removed the factory firing pin spring and replaced it with a new Colt standard spring to avoid any possible mis-fires that I have seen on other CA. compliant 1911 style pistols.
I disassemble the pistol for cleaning and and upon reassemble I had problems with the slide stop lever snapping into place. I had to remove 20 thousands of metal from the slide stop plunger and polish it and the surface of the slide stop where the plunger makes contact. That cured the problem.
Now the pros. The barrel lockup is tight as would be expected from a hand fitted 1911. No movement at the barrel hood or at the bull barrel muzzle. Big surprise on that one.
The slide to frame fit was very tight, but smooth in operation. On the tear down I could not see any tool marks and the frame rails and slide rails were as smooth as would be expected if they had been hand polished. Another big surprise for a low budget 1911. Trigger pull was 5 pounds and crisp and no hint of burrs and very little over travel.
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After viewing the above items, I felt this officer size 1911 will be an accurate one over other 1911's that cost far more in price. This pistol was $639.00 before taxes and FFL fees. A trip to the range proved me right. The 5 shot target is Winchester hardball and the 7 shot target is my reloads using 185 gr. Golden Sabre bullets. The targets were fired off hand with barricade support at ten yards. I would love to get this pistol into a Ransom rest at 25 yards to see what it can do.
If you want a officer size 1911 with 3.5 inch barrel for concealed carry, do not overlook the Rock Island Armory 1911. It is a pistol that preforms in a class that is over twice the amount of money. Also has very good sights that both front and rear are drift adjustable for windage.
 
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That's really nice. I didn't know RIA/Armscor even made stainless 1911's.
That one is the Baby, I have the Government size in .45 and 9mm with the 10mm on back order. I don't plan to fire them; I just have a fetish for stainless steel.
 
#6 ·
CharlieHorse, by not firing them, you are missing out on a lot of fun at the range. I just bought a full size, 5 inch, RIA stainless steel 1911 and I found the same good quality build on it. Tight barrel lockup and slide to frame fit. No tool marks on the rails. back and forth movement slick as butter. I will be taking it to the range in a few days and I expect good groups from it also like the Officer model above. On testing feeding, the gun would feed and chamber empty 45 cases. Should be a very reliable gun for defense work.
I would compare these two guns with Colts made in the late 60's when Colt had a good rep for quality workmanship. In the 70's Colt workmanship took a dive after being bought out by a large diverse company that started to take shortcuts to increase the profit margin. Now I will wait for Colt diehards to yell at me. I still have a series 70 1911 colt in my gun safe that I love shooting.
My Colt National Match has gone to my Grandson as he is entering law enforcement. I depended on that gun to save my life for many years while working as a LEO and one occasion it did save my life when I used it to drop a wanted felon at 97 yards who made the mistake of pointing a rifle at me.
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CharlieHorse, by not firing them, you are missing out on a lot of fun at the range. I just bought a full size, 5 inch, RIA stainless steel 1911 and I found the same good quality build on it. Tight barrel lockup and slide to frame fit. No tool marks on the rails. back and forth movement slick as butter. I will be taking it to the range in a few days and I expect good groups from it also like the Officer model above. On testing feeding, the gun would feed and chamber empty 45 cases. Should be a very reliable gun for defense work.
I would compare these two guns with Colts made in the late 60's when Colt had a good rep for quality workmanship. In the 70's Colt workmanship took a dive after being bought out by a large diverse company that started to take shortcuts to increase the profit margin. Now I will wait for Colt diehards to yell at me. I still have a series 70 1911 colt in my gun safe that I love shooting.
My Colt National Match has gone to my Grandson as he is entering law enforcement. I depended on that gun to save my life for many years while working as a LEO and one occasion itabdid save my life when I used it to drop a wanted felon at 97 yards who made the mistake of pointing a rifle at me.
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I have an original Colt Officer from the first 1,000 in production. I carried it a lot but intentionally kept the round count low because I love the gun and can never replace it. I have never fired reloads in it, but Plus P always. I put the round count between 2,000-2,500. I enjoy it with ball ammo also. It has been perfeeeeect in everyway, despite what some might say. I have many others in many calibers for shooting holes in paper or knocking over little gongs.

Thanks for the review, I might need a shooter and this one looks good. You get what you pay for was true, when we were buying Ford Pintos but that has not applied for a very long time lowith respect to the 1911 now made everywhere. The RIA led the way, now others like Tisas make fine guns, in fact Springfield Armory uses the Tisas frame for their guns, and many from Turkey and other places make up the bulk of handguns "assembled" in the US. Not many companies have the expertise of the Armscor or Taylors or others in the RIA family.

Two years ago I bought one of the Taylors made by Armscor and could not be more pleased. Mine is 10mm and also has been perfect in everyway. Five brands of ammo and 2 reloads and not on malfunction or failure whatsoever. So, when you say your gun from that company is perfect, I have no concerns about that statement. That is a nice looking pocket gun, I may have to have one of those. I call the Officers a pocket gun because I like to drop it in the hip pocket, no holster needed and run errands I may have. Those also fit a tiny belt slide remarkably well.

Thanks for posting that review. Well done.
 
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Kind of figured something like that, but being California, who knows what they have come up with. I grew up in LA county, and left 30 years ago. Went to Disneyland last year with my kids, and my gut was turning, and I was asking myself, “what the H-E-Double toothpicks I’m I doing back here,” the whole time. Went in the military after high school, and moved to Idaho after I got out; had a lot better life in Idaho and up here in Alaska—glad my kids don’t have to grow up where I did!
 
#10 ·
I just ordered the same. Can’t wait to get it. Guy on another forum has already began customizing his and seems to really like it as well. Looks pretty sweet to start with. The OP’s minor adjustments and the additional observations has me even more excited.
 
#11 ·
I'd be interested to follow that build subject you mentioned if it's still available elsewhere. I just brought one of these ROCK SC ECS Stainless (51868) new units home with me recently, and am pretty impressed with the slide-frame fit, ultra-smooth cycling, and the trigger...overall it's amazing. Haven't been able to get to the range yet to punch paper with it... Also looking for a high-quality recoil spring replacement to keep onhand that has more than 500 rd lifespan. I know they are out there.

Thanks, and cheers!
 
#18 ·
The misfires I was talking about happen with another CA. approved firearm in 9mm. That gun had a lightweight titanium firing pin and heavy duty firing pin spring. The firing pin and spring was replaced with a standard firing pin and spring and no more misfires in several hundred rounds.
By putting in a heavy duty firing pin spring,has more coils, over a standard one, limits the travel distance of the firing pin and results in light hits on the primer that sometimes can result in a misfire. On the Rock Island 1911, they used a standard steel firing pin, not a lightweight titanium firing pin like Springfield Armory uses. RA just beefed up the firing pin spring to the point it would pass the CA. drop test. I am not worried about the gun firing if dropped as it requires about a 3 foot drop onto a very hard surface and must hit muzzle first in order to fire. Having a misfire in a defense incidence is more of a concern to me.
 
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You are correct on CA. demanding fees to test the gun. If you would look at most of the laws passed in CA. during the past 5-7 years, there is a fee attached to the law because CA. wants their money and they love going after gun owners for that money. We have a 11% tax on guns and ammo. We can no longer pass a gun to child or grandchild without going though a dealer and paying a fee to the state. If you move into CA., who would be that stupid, and bring guns into the state. You have to registered them and pay CA. their fees.