Loosely fitted guns wont go as far without a rebuild as tightly fitted guns but outside of a new barrel at around 100-150k rds of jacketed ammo they could last forever if properly maintained and rebuilt once or twice in their lifetime.

A steel framed 1911 with the steel slide is really overbuilt for standard pressure .45acp

 

I stopped counting after my lightly customized Series 80 reached approximately 75,000. I also haven't shot it much since then. Of course I also have pistols I've only fired once just to test function.

If properly cared for, a 1911 can be fired well over 100,000 before needing a rebuild. And then it can be rebuilt a nearly infinite number of times. Gunsmithing for the 1911 has reached a point where there really isn't anything that can't be repaired, unless you actually blow it up with a bad reload.

 

I really liked your responce dsk. It makes you just want to buy a 1911 since they are a work horse. Like your sig line line to. If aint broke don't fix it.

 

I was raised to maintain a firearms logbook on each and everyweapon I own, which I do to this day. Each logbook is both written and computer based

1. Date of Purchase
2. Copy of receipt
3. Date of firing
4. Type of ammo used
5. Which magazines were used. (all my mags are numerically numbered)
6. Accuracy
7. Type of range, indoor, outdoor
8. Weather conditions
9. Complete maintenance done that day

My computer program maintains a running round count, and when a predetermined round count is reached for that particular weapon, the program informs me it's time to change springs, and do a detailed field strip and inspection.

I have a Generation 1 Glock 17 that has 99,314 rounds through it. I have a Taurus PT-92 with 78k rounds, a Springfield GI with 45k, a Safari Arms GI with 88k.

I also maintain a magazine log, each and every magazine I own is numbered, this way I can keep track of when I bought it, how much it has been used, and, should I have issues with it, I know which one needs maintenance.

One of my first Norinco's, made from recycled railroad steel, is nearing the 85k round mark, and was recently returned from Browns custom shop for inspection and declared to be in mint condition. I did have him replace all the internals with his Hardcore parts and a match grade barrel.

 

Damn, I wish I had a computer program like that! I'd bet you could market it with good results!

 

WOW. I just go bang bang, clean and bang bang again. :biglaugh:

 

Exactly...Seems like a lot of effort..and life (at 63) is short. But to each his own. What ever gives you pleasure/ I am just not a very serious shooter.

 

An accurate round count? Can't help you.
This LW Commander that I built in 1975 has between 12,000 and 15,000 rounds through it and has developed a crack in the frame just ahead if the slide stop pin.
Cracks like that don't hurt anything.

 

Does anyone know if the wear is any different for the steel commanders?

 

Generally I have heard barrels get changed at 50-60k for competition pistols. I know of extractors that have gone over 11,000 rounds. And I know that frames --steel-- easily go 100,000 to 200,000. Probably more but I don't know anyone who has honestly documented it.

Alloy frames...not so much. :biglaugh:

Regards,
Greyson

 

Japle,looks like you got worse problems than a cracked frame.
Your bbl is stretched out the front some and evidently yo hammer fell off!?:biglaugh:

 

My

Kimber TLE has more than 25000 now. Still fine. Finish worn, but no big deal. Have a Para p-14 that has unknown amount-at least 50000. Kinda loose, but still can hit beer cans at 50yrds with it. I really don't know what the limit is . Probably more than I will ever shoot in my life. I do know of a friend that has a Colt with more than 100000. He was mad that he recently had to replace the barrel. He was thinking of having it rebuilt as well, as it isn't that tight. But he carries it , and it sits besides his bed at night.

 

im at

im at 200..just started ..ill let you know

lol

 

My Baer is at 5000+. Spring change and lube-cleaning. My friend has an old Bear, one of the first Premier's. It is going on 100,000 rounds with no problems. His dad shot it every day till 2000. Since he passed away it doesn't see much action, but his son still takes it out for a spin now and then. Still very accurate and still tight and smooth.

 

Wow, this thread is encouraging.

 

On his site, Hilton discusses round counts and what needs to be addressed when. For a ball park, check it out. Good stuff.

www.10-8Performance.com

 

I'm approaching 50,000rds on my IDPA pistol. It's a Novak customized Colt 1991.
It has a Bar-Sto barrel that mainly sees lead and a little bit of the bore is starting to wear forward of the chamber. I replaced the hammer, sear and disconnector around 45,000rds because the trigger was developing creep and I was occasionally getting hammer follow. It has the original extractor and it still has good tension. It has Birdsong's Green T finish that is bare in a lot of places but the gun has never rusted despite being shot in the rain and not wiped down and cleaned until days later. I change the recoil and firing pin springs every 5,000rds.

 

If I can afford to run 100,000 rounds through a pistol, it's life is a moot point. If it's worn out I'll chunk it in the trash can and buy a new one.

 

Japle,looks like you got worse problems than a cracked frame.
Your bbl is stretched out the front some and evidently yo hammer fell off!?

ROFLMAO!!!:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Walterjoe

 

Never thought to keep a count of how many rounds go thru my pistols. At about $1000 or less per gun, I figure I can replace whatever breaks or just buy a whole new gun.

I do keep a spread sheet of how many rounds of what caliber ammo I have on hand so when I restock, I can buy what I need.

For me, I get enjoyment out of shooting, cleaning, and maintaining my gun. As with my motorcycles, I know when I have to change the oil because the odometer tells me. When it comes to maintenance of a boat, airplane or motorhome, it's a hobbs meter or calendar time of the year.

Keeping track of the number of rounds per gun when one owns multiple guns seems like too much work but I understand if it floats your boat...than by all means have fun at it. Your attention to extreme detail is to be commended.

 

I'm curious as to whether there's any difference in terms of longevity between stainless and carbon steel?

 

M. Cameron that's just funny!! "Your bbl stretched:biglaugh:!! Sousana, nice pic's. Is that you in the red Mercedes?:rock: