You gotta carry it cocked and locked. Should work fine.

 

Wonder if this might work for you:

QuickShip Model 2010 - Under Cover 1911 holster OWB

The Undercover is our take on the classic pancake-style holster. 2 belt slots ensure your 1911 stays firmly in place during a one-handed draw or reholster. The front mold design keeps the holster flat against your body and keeps the holster open when your pistol is in use.

kirkpatrickleather.com

 

Maybe this or another Galco:

Galco® Combat Master Tan Belt Holster - 1911 4.25"

Springfield Armory WebStore

store.springfield-armory.com

it also depends on how much you want to spend… ordinarily I would suggest Milt Sparks but they are ages behind… maybe take a look at Mitch Rosen holsters?

 

I agree with FDM1.

 

I carry a commander length garrison in a bianchi model 57. It's definitely a budget holster but I have no complaints with it. It's been on my belt for the better part of a year now and seems to be holding up fine.

 

Maybe take a look at what NH has to offer:

Custom Leather Gun Holsters | Nighthawk Custom

Nighthawk Custom creates custom made leather holsters as a fine compliment to your custom 1911 handgun. All can be hand crafted using only the finest leather available.

www.nighthawkcustom.com

 

Almost everybody that makes a leather holster will make a leather holster for a 5" 1911

Here is our OWB holster picture thread for some ideas https://www.1911forum.com/threads/owb-holster-pic-thread.204433/

If you need a thumb break, Tucker will offer it OWB Holsters | Outside the Waistband Holsters | Tucker Gunleather

so will Lobo Serious equipment for serious buisness

Simply Rugged's Tribute Simply Rugged™ Holsters - Store - Simply Rugged Holsters

 

That's part of the reason I don't like extended thumb safeties! I've seen some with a thick piece of leather sewn on the thumb tab to prevent it from being pushed off.

I've been using 2 Bianchi 1911 holsters forever. A 7L and a 19L 'pancake'. I also use the 19L for my Commanders with a piece of closed cell foam to take up the length difference. the thumb strap fits tight against the rear of the slide with the hammer cocked.

Saw some nice holsters at a gunshow, and the thumbstrap was too long for C&L. I mentioned it to the maker, and his reply was "It goes over the hammer when down, I don't recommend carrying cocked & locked!"

 

It goes over the hammer when down, I don't recommend carrying cocked & locked!"

Yeah, he is an authority

 

I have a full size Ed Brown 1911 and purchased their OWB leather holster. It wasn't cheap but it is fantastic quality and I like it so much I would have paid more. None of the problems you have exist with it. My pistol is very secure in it and it draws and re-holsters like butter. I have a Milt Sparks Criterion IWB and the Ed Brown is every bit as good quality. They most likely have them in stock and would ship right away.

 

Per the OP's picture, you have the hammer down. I suspect the thumb break would fit with the hammer back.

Also, when disengaging the thumb break, your thumb should hit the inner tab, the female side of the snap, and drive down to the thumb safety. Your thumb should be on the thumb safety, not disengaging it, just finding it, and the leather tab should not be able to make contact with the thumb safety, because your thumb would be on the thumb safety during the draw.

 

 

These are good holsters especially at the price point. www.amazon.com/1791-Gunleather-1911-Holster-Leather/dp/B07V2PJ2WQ/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=ZTO418X5PQXZ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.fLF-dVHQ5TxBHrg-bTThsjnC78OB6snWsVySUBk2IkqJUcLsAkzx5MsG01lwPGOMSzbCLMIS9GQUGh-ry7VautSUKzcpO3GJsswW-9RRAuwLfC28XACiM-nOytZPieunLpECOF6fv3Vq8gUpv6KYcxEfpV50VwidcoWz3z2FfhbPJAqeSBEiQfcvS--dsD39UgDYxiUUbUBsVcyVQu16aaRjZe_CfbQdlIzFkAjnhtwk8mpn1y3BCsn0_KSeXpk8HiPJL9EwDJNZgfE0APBwC4fn0YOKlBdBpqt8zTwmRVM.HzUut1owxHQq3MWLOJg3c3r7Ze09MHXuNQGF4ShdAEc&dib_tag=se&keywords=1791%2BGunleather%2B1911%2BHolster&qid=1740092315&sprefix=1791%2Bgunleather%2B1911%2Bholster%2B%2Caps%2C91&sr=8-2-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1

 

Either of these are great options.
Phoenix combination strong side/crossdraw
or Thunderclap
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Check out Mitch Rosen

 

I have a Galco FLETCH for my 1911's. Mainly use it at the range.

Fletch High Ride Belt Holster

The FLETCH™ high ride holster is one of Galco’s most popular designs. Its unique two-piece construction is contoured on the body side to the natural curve of the hip, keeping all the molding on the front of the holster, allowing for significantly more

www.galcogunleather.com

 

straps don't belong on a 1911 holster you are going to carry. hammer down on a empty chamber with a big ole military flap is not the hot set up. there are a ton of great out side holsters available. the better quality (more expensive) usually work fine with the extended safety. also we all have a box full of holsters that didn't quite work out. wright bros, mitch rosen are some medium priced. there is a forum here about holsters. if you have to have the strap, the reason its too short is so you can wet it and stretch it to fit your hammer correctly. they can be quite short and still fit right.

 

I use this one by Tagua Gunleather. I don't see it any more on their website but there are some similar ones. I use this for all my 1911's, both fullsize and Commander, as well as a BHP.

Great quality and holds the pistol firmly but easy to draw.

TAGUA TX 1836 HOLSTERS IWB/OWB

Discover the Top 5 Best-Selling Holsters of the TX 1836 Series by Tagua Gunleather!

www.taguagunleather.com

 

Please forgive me in advance if I seem to be impatient.

I would like to address a couple of erroneous thoughts up front.

1) There is no holster for a Garrison modeled 1911.

Within reason, all 5 inch 1911's will have the same dimensions. So any 5 inch 1911 holster of good quality will fit.

2) Usually, a thumb break holster is designed to wrap in front of the cocked hammer. Not behind the uncocked hammer.

If you cock your hammer you'll see that your retention straps will in fact reach and snap just fine.

The design is to retain the gun in the holster and prevent the hammer from dropping onto the firing pin. A redundancy but that's its design.

3) Sometimes a groove is set into the leather that triggers the safety downward. To prevent this don't set the gun into the holster with the hammer down and the safety disengaged. Don't set a new lower groove for the safety. Only holster cocked and locked. The holster will break in and a correct groove will be set for your engaged safety.

If you would rather not do this, fine. But there is nothing wrong with the retention strap of the holster pictured.

Thumb break holsters are just as good as any when used correctly.

 

Any thoughts about duty retention levels such as a Safariland ALS for open carry of a 1911? Not a fan of Blackhawk Serpa. Don't know if the ALs is leather.

 

Safariland ALS is a great holster. The weapon is VERY secure, but can be drawn quickly. Re-holstering is also very fast. The locking system, I think, is more robust than than the Blackhawk Serpa, and many believe it to be safer. It would be a top choice for open carry.

 

I just got a new Garrison 1911 5-inch barrel .45 ACP in SS. I just returned my second newly purchased online OWB holster. Thumb snaps did not line up as the strap was too short. Worse yet when drawing the pistol from the holster in the cocked and locked position, the safety chaffed / caught on the holster moving the safety to the fire position. Not good. Many manufactures state their holsters fit my make and model. They don't.

If you have the same pistol as I just bought and have also bought an OWB leather holster that functions as it should, would you please tell me the make and model number.

I am right-handed. I prefer a belt loop OWB full depth leather holster but one that leaves an inch of the barrel sticking out at the bottom is OK. It can be with or without a thumb snap. Not interested in polyethylene or locking LEO type holsters. Your advice is much appreciated.

Then check out Jason Winnie J111 holsters, I have a few of them, and when I carry OWB I use them above all others. Link: Jason Winnie Leathergoods

 

Gun Holsters | Custom Leather Holsters By Wright Leather Works

Our gun holsters are made from high-quality leather to provide a comfortable & reliable option for everyday carry. Shop our selection of leather holsters.

www.wrightleatherworks.com

 

I have a Tauris Standard Hip Holster with retention strap. Very good quality and usually only takes about two weeks. As received, the strap needed to be slightly stretched for the snaps to engage in condition 1. Just twist and pull to elongate the strap.

Tauris Holsters, L.L.C. - Custom Leather

 

I've been using the same Bianchi Askins Avenger holster for either a Ransall A111 (copy of a 1911A1) or a Colt 1911A1XSE for probably 35 years. Used it when I was on the job in a plain clothes assignment and off duty. Retired now and still use it, even though I have copies of Nelson's design from other custom holster makers. That's Bianchi's version of the old style that I "think" was first made by Bruce Nelson. It's an OWB, open top, high-rise, straight drop; covers the trigger guard but not the safety. Still pretty snug after all these years. If you do an online search you will probably find some called an Askins Avenger or other name or model number that display different degrees of cant or rake. That's not the original design.

 

Icepick15:

Thanks for the input. I've owned many long guns, pistols and revolvers but always wanted a .45 and now i have one. I was thinking of "small of the back" or "cross draw" outside waist band. Leaning towards cross draw. In your experience. Are there any drawbacks to either positions? See attached.

I'm not the Rambo type. 71 year old trying to retire civil engineer. I do not carry every day, just when I think I should given where I am headed that day or time. I think an individuals brain is their greatest weapon. I focus on keeping myself out of potentially bad situations.

A lot of cheap holsters out there. I do believe that generally speaking, one gets what one pays for. A lot of the better holsters are North of $150. I think it's the leather that is the difference. The cheap ones all seen to be really thick when stitched together. The first one I returned, the individual leather piece was 3/16-in thick. Sown together 7/16-in thick. That's a lot of leather. No need to respond unless you want to. Thanks again.

Greg

 

I recommend an Avenger type holster as most pants have belt loops to short apart to allow most holster to fit without skipping a belt loop.

 

Straddle the belt loops.

Almost all of my pants have a belt loop at about 3:30. A typical pancake perfectly straddles that belt loop, especially since the loops on the pancake are so narrow.

A straight drop #1 Professional (55BN or Avenger type) with the wide tunnel loop also straddles those 3:30 loops on my pants for 3:00 wear, but the wide tunnel loop on a canted #1 Professional is a little difficult with a 3:30 belt loop.

 

If you want options, the Galco Phoenix gives both strongside and crossdraw (driving, tractor, mower) in the same quality leather holster.
Can’t recommend small of back carry.

See post #14.
Garrison 5” 1911 in a Galco Phoenix, see numbers on backside photo.
PHX212
No issue carrying C&L with thumb safety disengagement by strap on draw.

 

Haven't carried a 1911 all that long but here's our take on OWB holsters. Like mods to your blaster, simpler is better IOHO. Have used Thad Rybka Rhodesian rigs for more than a few years; simple, secure and quick. A 40+ year old (1983) Rybka and a more recent clone from Rafter-L. This is our all-time favorite holster design.

Recently however we have been using the new Thunderclap from Galco with our CCOs. It too is simple and secure and stradles a belt loop if necessary. Had to add a tension screw after about 6-9 moths of use but we like a bit more than too little retention.

 

been using the new Thunderclap from Galco

That’s a great holster.
The lining and craftsmanship are excellent.
Got a photo of your added tension screw installed?

 

Bianchi model 56

54 dollars at Amazon dot com and fits any standard 5 inch 1911

Amazon.com : BIANCHI Model 56 Serpent Belt Slide Holster, Right Hand - COLT 1911, Tan : Gun Holsters : Sports & Outdoors

Amazon.com : BIANCHI Model 56 Serpent Belt Slide Holster, Right Hand - COLT 1911, Tan : Gun Holsters : Sports & Outdoors

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