I never had a TISAS that worked right out of the box.

 

But the post is absolutely True

 

Both of my Tisas have been trouble free on fmj ball .45 ammo. 1911a1 and 1911a1 Service. OEM and Checkmate mags. S&B ammo.

They both have a rather tight extractor. They choked a bit on JHP. When they get a few thousand rounds through them, Ill try JHP again.

Both responded well to a trigger job. Sights were set well.

 

The stock 1911 was not designed for HP flatter nose ammo. If your model has been modified at factory to feed such ammo then better chance the pistol feeds that ammo.

Out of the box ....likely any 1911 will choke sometimes with ammo that is not Round Nose FMJ.

Every RIA and every Tisis 1911 that I've fired works flawlessly with 230 Gr RNFMJ ammo.

Start changing magazines and ammo feed issues may or may not creep into your life. I have found the 1911
species very magazine sensitive.

Now if the OP had asked about Auto Ordinance 1911's out of the box, my reply would be : Fat Chance, quality control is crap

 

The stock 1911 was not designed for HP flatter nose ammo. If your model has been modified at factory to feed such ammo then better chance the pistol feeds that ammo.

Out of the box ....likely any 1911 will choke sometimes with ammo that is not Round Nose FMJ.

Every RIA and every Tisis 1911 that I've fired works flawlessly with 230 Gr RNFMJ ammo.

Start changing magazines and ammo feed issues may or may not creep into your life. I have found the 1911
species very magazine sensitive.

Now if the OP had asked about Auto Ordinance 1911's out of the box, my reply would be : Fat Chance, quality control is crap

The OP is specifically asking about Tisas. My experience is mostly with Colts, and aside from nearly all of them coming with zero extractor tension they've all run flawlessly after that one annoying issue was fixed. I'm talking about newer ones, not ones made in the early 1990s when Colt couldn't even find its own ass in the dark.

I've owned a lot of USGI 1911s over the years, and I used to shoot them frequently before prices skyrocketed even on the plain-jane models I had. Aside from an Ithaca with a bad slide stop all of them ran flawlessly. Of course I did replace the recoil and firing pin springs, but you should do that with any older 1911.

 

My .45 Stingray has been 100% out of the box, but I haven't shot the holy hell out of it, either. I DID swap out the trigger for a better-looking unit, and I swapped out the grips, but mechanically, it's unchanged.
My D-10 10mm has a different trigger, and an arched MS housing, and it's otherwise unchanged, too.
The nine-millimeter Tisas pistols, not so much, I've changed out the triggers (again, better looks) and the extractors needed work. I did a full swap-out during "trigger pull adjustments" on the Double Stack, but other than the trigger and extractor on the Tank Commander, nothing else. The 9mm Stingray got a new trigger and extractor (and grips).

Such things, in my case, are just "adjustments", really, no real smithing involved, just personalization stuff. Compared to the last few Colts and Springfields I've owned or still own, Tisas has a better track record, frankly. Even my Ruger and two Rock Islands have had some "adjustments" to personalize them for my own tastes. Tisas is just about the only brand I look at, any more. Price is a good point, but NOT having to rework them is a bigger point, to me.
I think the good internal working parts NOT being cast or MIM have a lot to do with that.

 

I have two, a 45 and 38 super. Both run well with HP, an occasional hiccup on
feeding, no difference from my two Les Baers

 

My DS1911 has had no problems OOB. Great shooter! I did have to tune the extractor on my Devil Ray Carry

 

Not a Tisas but my Springfield MilSpec ran reliably out of the box with 200 semi wadcutters and RN ammo. Haven't tried any hollowpoints in it

 

I made cosmetic and ergonomic mods to my Service before I shot it...nothing that should have affected reliability, and it was 100% reliable (and surprisingly accurate) out of the box.

 

Who has a Tisas 1911 that is reliable with no modifications, tuning, return to the mothership, etc?

When Tisas was newer people were constantly raving about them and most were perfect out of the box. Lately though there have been a much greater concentration of threads about Tisas not running right out of the box.

I wonder if it's as simple as they scaled up production to meet huge demand and QC slipped a bit.

 

When Tisas was newer people were constantly raving about them and most were perfect out of the box. Lately though there have been a much greater concentration of threads about Tisas not running right out of the box.

I wonder if it's as simple as they scaled up production to meet huge demand and QC slipped a bit.

I'm sure that's the case. Kimber and Para Ordnance were the same way... the first ones ran like a scalded ape, but as soon as both manufacturers ramped up production to meet the huge surge in demand QC went right down the drain and folks started complaining about issues.

The 1911 is not a gun that you can crank out in cookie-cutter fashion like a Glock. Many parts need to be gauged and hand-fitted if necessary. If Susie Q (or Mohammed) on the production line doesn't have time to test and properly fit the extractor in each and every pistol it's going to cause problems for the end user. In fact most new guns aren't even test fired these days... just one from each batch.

 

I have four Tisas and they have all run great out of the box. I have two stingrays, one in .45 and one in 9mm. I have a Youkon and a .45 govet. model all have over a thousand rounds through them and never hicup.

 

^ Could be, flech...I dunno. I got mine in November 2022 for $322.98 shipped. It has the import mark beneath the dust cover.

 

Who has a Tisas 1911 that is reliable with no modifications, tuning, return to the mothership, etc?

The posts here in the Tisas forum unfortunately reflect my Stakeout experience, but people normally post in any gun forum to report issues or show off mods. Its boring to post "My Tisas has been perfect since day 1 and now has 10,000 round with zero malfunctions.

Own up, y'all - whose Tisas has been trouble free?

Andy

Me.

 

Me too.

 

I've had a Tisas that jammed the first mag I shot...needed extractor work. I have one that ran fine, if a bit erratic ejection distance. I've had 2 Colts, one ran, one didn't. 1 Springer I have was fine and went 3500 rounds before I detail stripped it. Another Springer was terrible.

It isn't the brand, it's lack of proper extractor setup. They all do it on mass production pistols. Drop it in, maybe bend it, although I have seen a couple Tisas that had a TS ground, I have never seen a stock extractor that was hand filed out of the box, on any 1911 I have had.

 

Mine ran like a clock

 

I have the cheapest of them, the Tisas Service Special. No problems.

 

Over a thousand rounds through my Tisas Tanker without a single hiccup. Only thing I've done to it is change the grips.

 

I don’t own a Tisas but the ones I see at the range seem to have some extractor issues… nothing that can’t be fixed. I have seen some with magazine issues. Saw a couple Kimbers which were jam-o-matics. As I have stated before my Colts ran out of the box. My two WC guns run like well oiled machines. My EB is 100% reliable since day one. My very first two Armscor guns bought years ago were both great 100% running guns too. Guess I am lucky or blessed.

 

I own 4 Tisas 1911’s

1. Tisas Service Special. About 400 rounds through it, Ball and HP’s. Not one FTF or jam. Not one.

2. Tisas B45 Duty. Sensitive to magazines. But runs great with Wilson and Magtecs. Doesn’t like Wilson 10rd mags.

3. Tisas D10. First couple of magazines I had a couple failures to feed. The only ammo I’ve run through it is AAC 180 HP’s. Since those 2 mags it’s ran perfect. Love that pistol.

4. SDS JSOC. I’ve run about 200 rounds through this one. Not enough to make a decision but it’s ran great so far. A couple bobbles with the first couple of mags but it’s been trouble free since. I also really like that pistol.

I compare these 1911’s to my SA TRP. That is a really nice 1911. Never a problem with it. Accurate, reliable, I love it. Are the Tisas in the same league? No. The D10 isn’t far behind it though.

I think Tisas 1911’s are great pistols, that just happen to be a great value.

Edited to say that the B45 likes the Mec-Gar mags.

 

My Tisas 1911 G.I. has run flawlessly since I first took it out of the box and fired it. It fed from both magazines, and held the slide back on the last shot. I tried several Wilson Combat magazines in it as well. All ran well with zero issues. I changed out the grips with some Rosewood grips that I had. Now it looks as good as it shoots. Damn hard to beat for the money. ($299.00).

 

Since 2015 I've owned five Tisas 1911 pistols. I still own four including a double stack 2011 type. The one I sold was a Series 80 action which shot well but I'm not a fan of the firing pin block.

All of mine have been fine out of the box and other than change grips and touch up the triggers to lighten the pull weight, I've had to do nothing to them. They work and work well. I sent one off to be cut for an RMSc optic. The 1911 DS comes optics ready. Below are pictures of my first Tisas 1911 purchased in 2015 and the first target I ever shot with it. The SWC designed after the H&G #68 feeds as reliably as round nose bullets. The second 1911 is the one I had cut for an optic and seen before and after with a target I shot. Before being too critical of the group, I was 80 when I shot it at 22 yards standing. In 2015 I paid $383 for the first one and in 2023 I bought the "Blem" for $350 total. The "Blem", as far as I can tell, was a mismatch in color between the slide and frame.

 

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So, did you miss the first time, or did you manage to shoot him in the neck before he ducked?

 

I have several:
Colt M1911A1. CMP purchase
Springfield Armory Ronin 1911. 9mm

Both very reliable , accurate

 

I stopped by a poorly lit range to test fire a brand new 9mm Aviator. It wouldn't cycle properly. I thought maybe the extractor needed some tweaking, When I got home and field stripped it, I discovered it was dry. I cleaned and lubed it and returned to the now dark range, and with only headlights to see by, it went through both mags that came with it and it has never missed a beat since.

 

Both of mine have been good out of the box. I’ve had the standard GI and the early Tanker, both worked great with ball ammo and a variety of magazines (factory, surplus, Wilson, CM, Ruger). I did not test any hp’s just because that design was not intended for hp’s. I understand modern designs may allow for it, but that is where I am. 👍🏻

 

My Tank Commander 45 ($419) has run without any issues out of box. Now, I later tweaked the extractor, not because it was non functional, but because I wanted it to eject the brass into the same general direction. I also have a Zig SS Duty 45 that occasionally nose dived the first round on a full 8 round mag with ball ammo, but after I'd had it at least 4 years, I sent it back to them. The sear was also bumping the hammer slightly as the hammer fell, and while it wasn't causing an issue, I didn't like it. I'd already adjusted the extractor and the tension was in their spec. They polished the frame and barrel ramp, replaced the hammer, sear and trigger, which took care of the issues. They sent it back, no charge, 3+ years out of warranty.

I started my return process via email and made no phone call. I told them facts, provided all the troubleshooting I'd done, what worked, what didn't, what was intermittent, what wasn't, etc. What I did Not do was send them an arrogant, angry message, calling it a POS, and telling them what I was going to do if they don't fix it. If there's one lesson I learned in my career of service, it was be gracious and ask for their help, not demand it, or else....

I'd buy another Tisa's in a NY minute.