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Why won't my 1911 feed hollow point ammo? Update with pics in post 78

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#1 ·
I picked up my new Springfield Operator yesterday and made it out to the range today. The pistol functions fine with ball ammo but will not feed hollow point ammo. It will randomly feed them when the magazine is not 100% full but if I load a round in the chamber and insert a fully loaded magazine with a hollow point on top it will not feed it. The round gets hung up in the feed ramp.

I tried the supplied Macgar mags, Wilson Combat mags, and some Colt magazines all with the same result.

I also picked up a new Springfield Garrison that eats everything. All of my Colt 1911's eat all ammo.

What could be the problem and what do you all recommend I do to fix it?

Here is the pistol with the Garrison on bottom and a Colt on top.

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#2 ·
. . .if I load a round in the chamber and insert a fully loaded magazine with a hollow point on top it will not feed it. The round gets hung up in the feed ramp.
Throating might help, but a close-up photo of the stoppage might indicate otherwise. An EGW mag catch that positions the magazine higher, or maybe just a different one, might help. Need more info.
 
#3 ·
Sadly some gun are just more finicky, you could try a different brand of SD ammo, it doesn't appear to be a magazine issue considering you tried a few and I think so called "throating" of the chamber (whatever that is) or polishing the feed ramp is just silly IMHO, sometimes going up a pound or two with your recoil spring can make a huge difference IMHO. It after-all, is the recoil spring that is jamming the round into the barrel.

I own mostly commanders and have recoil spring between 12-18 lbs on hand and I can't tell you how may problems I have solved by increasing or decreasing just the recoil spring.
 
#11 ·
I picked up my new Springfield Operator yesterday and made it out to the range today. The pistol functions fine with ball ammo but will not feed hollow point ammo. It will randomly feed them when the magazine is not 100% full but if I load a round in the chamber and insert a fully loaded magazine with a hollow point on top it will not feed it. The round gets hung up in the feed ramp.

I tried the supplied Macgar mags, Wilson Combat mags, and some Colt magazines all with the same result.

I also picked up a new Springfield Garrison that eats everything. All of my Colt 1911's eat all ammo.

What could be the problem and what do you all recommend I do to fix it?

Here is the pistol with the Garrison on bottom and a Colt on top.

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If it a non ramped barrel you need a 1/32 set back from the frame ramp. And as noted if you removed the recoil spring and the firing pin + extractor for safety you can work your slide slowly and see what’s going on. I just finished up a 1911 government size with a 40S&W bull non ramped barrel. I had to recut the barrel ramp to get that 1/32 set back. In its first live fire testing it cycled every kind of 40 cal. Ammo I have including wad cutters. The way I checked it on the bench was how I described it to you. Good luck and 1911’s Forever
 
#12 ·
I'd suspect excessive extractor tension, so, for a different reason than above, I'd assemble the slide without the extractor, then see if the gun will feed.
A 5" .45 should not be finicky about extractor tension, but too much is too much, and can stop feeding, cold.
 
#19 ·
Best idea. That's a fairly high dollar piece. Why take the chance of screwing something up? No knock on you sir sir but you don't appear to have a lot of knowledge about repairing it yourself. Let Springfield take care of it, they will do an excellent job. That Operator should run with just about any quality hollow point ammo on the market. Do tell them what ammo you are using.
 
#21 ·
I forgot to mention that after about 75 rounds and the weapon got dirty it did seem to feed the hollow points a little better. I'm guessing the feed ramp got dirty with carbon and allowed the rounds to slide up into the barrel a little easier.

I initially thought it was breaking in and that it would keep getting better but after arriving home and cleaning the pistol it went back to not feeding the hp ammo.
 
#23 ·
Let Springfield fix it on their dime. Don't fix stuff on your own unless you have no other options.

This is the year 2022, not 1982. A full-sized 1911 should be reliable with most hollow point ammo.
 
#31 · (Edited)
I picked up my new Springfield Operator yesterday and made it out to the range today. The pistol functions fine with ball ammo but will not feed hollow point ammo. It will randomly feed them when the magazine is not 100% full but if I load a round in the chamber and insert a fully loaded magazine with a hollow point on top it will not feed it. The round gets hung up in the feed ramp.

I tried the supplied Macgar mags, Wilson Combat mags, and some Colt magazines all with the same result.

I also picked up a new Springfield Garrison that eats everything. All of my Colt 1911's eat all ammo.

What could be the problem and what do you all recommend I do to fix it?

Here is the pistol with the Garrison on bottom and a Colt on top.
WOW!!! You sure got a whole lot of professional recommendations, from some (what seems to be ) very knowledgeable 1911 guys!!!

I'm none of the above, but, I will share with you what I would do first.

You don't mention what capacity mags you are using,.... I would get a 7 round mag, ( I use cheap Metalform for the past many decades without failures) and a box of BALL AMMO. I would NOT try 7+1 until I proved function without the 8th round, and with BALL AMMO.

If you are using 7 round mags,.... then my suggestion would be a simple change over to ball ammo,... without any jeopardy to you warranty! (y)

If a 7 round mag and Ball ammo corrects your failure,...shoot a lot of it and maybe it may also wear, what needs to be worn, to get HP's to work for you.

Or, not! :(

But, it's a cheap, easy, in house check, that can't hurt,... imo.
 
#35 ·
Polish the ramp with metal polish then rub some 'friction-modifying' lubricant (MT-10, FP-10, Super Lube, etc.) into the ramp - just a little drop on the fingertip. This has always worked for me on many different kinds of pistols. in a severe case, the benefits may not last until the next cleaning - in this case, you know you have to do something more intrusive. Otherwise, enjoy your easy-loading pistol.
 
#38 ·
Being that the firearm is only a day old, I am assuming you did an online warranty registration right off. This will help expedite your request for warranty repair.

If you have not yet registered, below is a link to start the process. Should be quick & easy. Good luck.