I regard Bill Wilson more than ever - quality smith and quality guy who recognizes quality wherever it is.

Terrific video!
Thanks for posting.

 

If I had his money I'd own an envious number of Pythons as well.

 

He does like his revolvers, and I can't blame him. A lot of us old gun guys shot a lot a revolvers in various calibers back in the day, and they will ALWAYS hold a special place in our collection and hearts.

 

I fell asleep listening to Mas…

 

We had that debate some years ago in the WC folder about slapping the trigger...Not something you do at 25 yards but could be useful up close. Tried it, no like it, don't need it.

Bill is the best, I have done my part in spades to pay for his revolvers because he builds great guns. And backs them up like few in the business...He is always generous with his shooting tips too even in the few times he visited us over the years in the WC folder.

I have one revolver 357 M 586-L-Comp. Shoot it once a year, love it, great trigger, I (personally) don't need a Python.

 

We had that debate some years ago in the WC folder about slapping the trigger...Not something you do at 25 yards but could be useful up close. Tried it, no like it, don't need it....

It's what Rob Leatham does and anyone else who is honest and smart. Here's an FBI agent explaining a machine they used at Quantico circa 2009. For many it will be an eye opener and settle the BS myth of trigger reset once and for all:

Our guys at Quantico have a pretty neat machine that hooks up to a gun that has a pressure sensor device attached to the trigger. Essentially, you start the computer, plug the gun into the machine and shoot. The computer screen displays a graph that tracks the exact movement of the trigger over time. You see where the shooter takes up the slack, starts the press through the resistance, when the sear breaks, and how the reset happens. It looks like an inverted V with the top being when the trigger stops at the end of the press and the bottom right leg is where the trigger stops in it's forward travel during the rest (it sounds complicated but is extremely simple when you look at it). When I was there in Dec they put several instructors on it to demonstrate. All the full-time instructors have historical graphs stored. They've also put top-level competitive shooters on it.....guys like TGO, TJ etc who have been graphed. With all of those people, not a single person has ever, ever, ever been able to break a shot and go exactly to the reset point or even just slightly past it. Only one or two out of hundreds tested even get into the area of half way between the reset point and the trigger fully forward. Most folks, including myself, come all the way off the trigger or at the very least let it get all the way forward before starting another press.
The only way you can take a shot and go directly to the reset point is by an extremely slow release that takes literally half a second or more. Obviously, that would be fine for bullseye, but not for what we do.
The guy that developed this was national PPC champion back in the 80s and has multiple state PPC championships, so he knows what he's doing. Obviously this is used most often with Glocks, but they also have match .22s, 1911s, Sigs etc with the trigger sensor mounted on them. Lots of people will call BS when it's described to them, so they go on the box and very quickly SEE that they don't do what they think they do and they aren't capable of doing it other than during an exceedingly slow release of the trigger, which is simply wasted time in any sort of shooting beyond the very slowest.

Feeling the Trigger Reset

I think I am going to stir up a hornets nest here! When someone recently asked me how the trigger reset felt on my personal gun...I just responded: yes, it resets every time I let go of it!!! I personally almost never feel the reset point on a trigger. The only time I really do feel the trigger r...

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Bill is right on spot with his opinion of the net Python Rear Adjustable Sight. Total POS on a great gun. Can't wait for a good aftermarket one.

 

ROB: The only way you can take a shot and go directly to the reset point is by an extremely slow release that takes literally half a second or more. Obviously, that would be fine for bullseye, but not for what we do.

Yea, non remarkable unless you are new to shooting. If you need to take more than one precision shots at distance, Controlled-reset may be useful. I have no idea who would use controlled-reset in SD or sports shooting in a 25 yard pit unless they are just starting out in shooting.

The only reason I think there is a debate about it is that the term is not descriptive enough. You always need to "reset" the trigger if one wants to shoot another round. "Controlled" Reset would be a much better term, or for Tough Guys possible "Hard"-Reset.

 

Learning the controlled-reset is valuable for a beginner, IMO...Then you go on to more advanced shooting but the reset is always there if you find a use for it every once in a while.

 

Kensights owns the Colt Accro and Ellison sights now and are still making them.
Apparently they may have talked to Colt about getting production data on the 2020 Python frame sight cut so they could make an aftermarket sight.
This appears to have fallen through and there's talk that Kensights may design a new sight cold.

There IS a new sight set for the 2020 Python made by Harrison Designs, but it's only the sight blade......

Harrison Design & Consulting, LLC. .200" Snake Sights for Colt Python, Anaconda, Grizzly, Kodiak -w- HD rear

 

The Pythons in that video are amazing. I just bought a new production Python (shot it for the first time today and it was great.) What do I need to look out for with the rear sight? This thread has me a little worried. I'm over the moon with my Python and don't want to have a problem.

 

The Pythons in that video are amazing. I just bought a new production Python (shot it for the first time today and it was great.) What do I need to look out for with the rear sight? This thread has me a little worried. I'm over the moon with my Python and don't want to have a problem.

The Pythons in that video are amazing. I just bought a new production Python (shot it for the first time today and it was great.) What do I need to look out for with the rear sight? This thread has me a little worried. I'm over the moon with my Python and don't want to have a problem.

 

Is it possible for you to mention the noun Glock without the hater BS "fanboy"? We're not 15 yrs. old here.

People didn't like the M&P because of broken triggers & the dreaded sear "bounce" when they first came out as well the early 9mm's had bad barrels which S&W eventually fixed. In other words. it took years before the M&P was reliable and S&W never acted as if they even wanted to make it as they never really supported it early on.

 

Is it possible for you to mention the noun Glock without the hater BS "fanboy"? We're not 15 yrs. old here.

People didn't like the M&P because of broken triggers & the dreaded sear "bounce" when they first came out as well the early 9mm's had bad barrels which S&W eventually fixed. In other words. it took years before the M&P was reliable and S&W never acted as if they even wanted to make it as they never really supported it early on.

Yikes! I actually own Glocks and have zero problem with the pistols (other than the almost fanatical devotion by some of its most outspoken acolytes, fanatical devotion should be reserved only for 1911s). And, uh, haven't been 15 years old for um, about 50 years. I'm simply characterizing the internet hyperbole of the times (which it appears you may have subscribed to a bit, even, sorry if I'm wrong). But am I wrong in positing that many devoted proponents of brand-specific and model firearms find minor faults to spotlight when their chosen one is compared to a competitor's model? You have lurked on some of the other internet gun forums and noted this, no?

Anyway, I worked for an employer that was one of the first major agencies in the U.S. to adopt the M&P as uniformed duty issue. And at the time, I was also a lead firearms instructor, so I was well aware of issues with the pistols (as I noted in my prior post). Many of the issues were totally blown out of proportion, much like issues with the original Glock when it was first introduced, or even -- the 2020 Colt Python.

In any event, if the term fanboy offends you, I shall strive to strike it from my vocabulary...

Back to the OP, though. Bill Wilson has some beautiful Pythons, and I was gratified to hear him praise even the older models (he also acknowledged the worthiness of the 2020 version) while explaining how some of the criticism of the "faults" of the Python arose, in particular, the issue of the Python to go out of time faster than say, S&W revolvers of the period. And learning that a simple trigger stop could prevent the problem. Good stuff.

 

Good luck finding a revolversmith who will install a trigger stop nowadays as the mere few left have ultra long wait lists.

Bilk Wilson is IMO half right. The problem is the two fingered hand (pawl) Colt used on all old DA's that are a SOB to time right and a carryover from 1871 when they adopted it in order to rotate conversion cylinders with different ratchets.