[gunslingergirl]

Thanks - I know I'm right. I am ALWAYS right, even when I'm wrong. A benefit of being both old and still alive after a long and nefarious life. But the youngsters think they know better.

OMG - they are STILL arguing with me on FB over this. I suggested that they ask Larry Vickers since he promotes their legal services.

Thinking of posting a link to the Beards McOperator video - but I guess that would be just plain cruel.

 

[gunslingergirl]

Just being an old fart nitpicker, but your definition of condition 3 has a minor error. If we are talking about a 1911 with the hammer down you can not have the safety on.

Yes, you are right, my slip up.

 

[gunslingergirl]

Let's don't hoke it up and stretch terminology out of shape. Cooper Conditions of readiness truly apply only to single action autos like 1911 and BHP.

Cond 0 - round chambered, mag in, hammer cocked, safety off.

Cooper referred to a super squirrel agency that carried BHPs safety off, but I do not recall him calling that "Condition Zero." He did not use the term "Condition Black" for Engaging in Combat, either.

Cond 1 - round chambered, mag in, hammer cocked, safety on. Preferred cond for SA autos, acceptable for DA/SA autos without decocker.

For a "Selective DA" auto like CZ75 for which we may forget about the DA altogether and treat it like a normal pistol.

Cond 2 - round chambered, mag in, hammer down, safety on. Preferred method for DAO or DA/SA with decocker.

Usual, yes, but not in the Cooper lexicon.

Cond 3 - chamber empty, mag in, hammer down, safety on. Must be racked before firing. Not usually a good idea for a defense gun - appropriate for hunting.

Not even possible with 1911 or BHP. I understand some Spanish pistols, some CZ copies, and post Cooper designs from SIG et al. can apply the safety with the hammer down. As well as Walther based DA/SA which were generally beneath Cooper's notice.

Cond 4 - gun empty,

I just don't think Cooper bothered to assign a number to an empty gun.


Jan Stevenson once did a series of humor pieces in which he assigned numbers to physically possible but senseless conditions of (non) readiness.
He had it carefully planned out to conclude:
Magazine loaded, chamber empty, decocked, safety on; in a flap holster with the flap bucked down.
Condition 13.
It might be funny except that was the actual carry condition of the West German police for their .32 Walther PPs in the pre- Red Army Brigade and Baader Meinhoff Gang era.

And although I am not admitting to any failings or misidentifying of my condition memory - you are right. I think we added the other "conditions" over the years. Kind of like "black," which really should be color code, "Duck!".