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They cannot be really tuned well like a Colt, Smith or Ruger. On the breechface they use a damn machine screw to aid headspace. On mine the trigger spring went to mush in less than 200 rds. and then one day it "froze" solid and the factory had to replace the entire yoke assembly. The Bulldog will not accommodate hot .44 Spcl. loads as well and they warn as such. Simply put, they are not durable. I loved the design, but didn't trust it.
Thanks. I owned about 4 dozen revolvers, most are Smith and Wessons, then Rugers, then Colt, Taurus, etc and one Charter. The 20 ounce 44 was never designed to shoot hot 44 special, the chart above which the FBI believes in puts the 44 special from a Charter right up there with the same barrel length 357 mag which I shoot all the time with full power loads, including about 35 rounds yesterday. I also have a 2.5 inch 44 mag, I love the round but for defensive use, it is probably not necessary either.

The Pitbull in 45 acp look interesting to me. I have been watching the reviews at Buds Gun shop and others on them for 4-5 years as well as the traditional 44. I do not believe reviews so much and do not look at the good ones, only the bad. Many are people who are just goofy about guns. Just glancing a minute ago, the 44 got a 4.7 out of 5. There are none that shows a design issue. The 45 Pit Bull did not do as well. One blew up in 2017, no clue if it was the gun or the load, but all 5s since that time. Just saying, customers seems to like them.Charter Arms Bulldog 44 Special Revolver | 74420 | Stainless/Silver, 2.5" Barrel, 5 Rounds, Polymer Grips, 3-Dot Sights - Buds Gun Shop

Then I went over and looked at the reviews for my guns, the SW model 29/629. They average a 4 out of 5. Just saying, the Charter owners seem pretty well satisfied with them.

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I came across a pitbull 9mm Yesterday any serious issue??
also have a chance for rhe pitbull 45acp.
I've the .45 auto one and I love it!
I had to do some work, sanding/polishing around the ejector rod where it engages the frame right in front of the cylinder. Every once and a while the cylinder would pop out a bit. Less than a 32nd of an inch but it was enough to make me look at it. Now it stays when you close the cylinder.
When closed, the crane was a bit rough and proud on the front where it should blend in with the frame. I took a fine file to it than some 1000 grit sandpaper and now it's perfect.
It has a very good double action trigger and is incredibly accurate for what it is.
I swear I had a picture of it. I put a real nice set of Altamont grips on it. Dang it!
 
Well my biggest issue is it shoots way to low. at 10yrd I have to aim nearly 10" above the target to hit center. WTH. 😟
You can file the top of the front sight to raise your point of impact...
@KR45P13 You are probably flinching.

@MCMLXIII That is bad advice if he is flinching. I had someone tell me his revolver (S&W M19) was way low too. When I shot it, all bullseyes. So I told him to practice by loading the cylinder with one live round and the rest fired brass. Spin the cylinder and check his flinch.
 
The Big problem with CA revolvers is that the design is not sound. They are based on the old H&R revolver and are not conducive to being easily "slicked up" and the idea of a headspace screw is appalling IMO. I had a Bulldog I loved, but twice it went back to the factory for major repairs. As Jeff Cooper said it's a Class A idea in a Class B design.
I have never heard that said, but as one who always read the back page first to see what Cooper had to say I would not be surprised.
I have heard the Class A idea in a Class B design before.

S&W reintroduce the 44 Special in the 24 and the 624 and Lew Horton had runs made with the three inch barrel in 1985.
 
I have heard the Class A idea in a Class B design before.

S&W reintroduce the 44 Special in the 24 and the 624 and Lew Horton had runs made with the three inch barrel in 1985.
Yes, but those are huge N Frames. Not good daily CCW's. Neither was their 696 5 shot L Frame Model either. I had one of those once as well. The Bulldog is however the perfect size for CCW. Too bad Ruger won't make one on their LCR frame.
 
I have heard the Class A idea in a Class B design before.

S&W reintroduce the 44 Special in the 24 and the 624 and Lew Horton had runs made with the three inch barrel in 1985.
Cooper never had all the brilliant knowledge that the FBI and every major bullet seller has now, the knowledge that most every caliber is as good as 45 ball in stopping bad guys. LOL Think about it, how many people on this site would rather carry a 9mm with a 3 inch barrel and some FBI approved hollow point ammo, than 45 ball. Cooper thought every law enforcement in the world should go to 10mm. As far as I know, not one LEO in the world agrees that it should be a duty round, however,,,,,......

Personally, I am with Cooper, not much better than 45 ball. That said, the Corbon 44 spec defense loads are right up there with 45 ball in both power and penetration. The only big downside of the 44 Charter is you only have 5 rounds. And it still weighs 20 ounces which matters in many secenarios.
 
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Yes, but those are huge N Frames. Not good daily CCW's. Neither was their 696 5 shot L Frame Model either. I had one of those once as well. The Bulldog is however the perfect size for CCW. Too bad Ruger won't make one on their LCR frame.
True.. but this won't be a ccw. I got a s&w 642 and 637 for that.. also a Taurus 605 if I'm feeling 357. I got a few K& L frames smith 681 etc... I purchased this because is Chamber in 9mm and is cheaper then 38s or primers at the time. Tomorrow afternoon I'll run 50rds to see. and keep u guys posted 👍
 
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I really like mine - it has around 1k rounds through it with no issues. There is a learning curve for loading it since it does not use moon clips. Once you figure it out, it works just fine. Those are Altamont grips, in case you were interested...
I just shot my new 9mm Pitbull for the first time. It is 8 inches low at 7 yards with 3 different types of FMJ. I like how the gun feels, but very disapponted in accuracy.

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Any luck on knowing why?. mine in the safe till I get a hold of Charter Arms.
Yes. While I was waiting for Carter to return my emails, I did some detective work of my own. I noticed my front sight was very high and went right to a point, a perfect triangle shape. I looked on the charter Arms web site at the product pictures and noticed the front sites of the 9mm Pitbulls were not that high but machined off to only half the height of mine, not a triangle shape. Charter did call me back and said to send it in or if I felt comfortable enough, I could grind down the front sight myself and not void the warranty. I asked him if they possibly skipped a step during manufacturing to mill down the front sight and he said "maybe". Long story short, I used a metal grinding disk to take off half the front sight and then finished it off with a small file to remove burrs and smooth the surface. It came out great. I can now hit bullseyes at 25 yards with 147 grain bullets. Compare your gun with the product pictures on Charter's website to see if you have the same problem. Don't take off too much at once if you opt to do it yourself. Baby steps.
Also, I did have a few lite strikes right out of the box with cheap ammo. After I shot it, cleaned it, oiled it, and shot it again, I did not have any more problems. I learned the trigger springs come in 2 versions. Blue springs are standard, and green springs are heavier duty. I took off my grips and I have the green spring, but still no more lite strikes after some use and good cleaning. During cleaning, hold down the trigger and exercise the hammer really well to work it in.
I also exercised the heck out of the shell ejection rod while cleaning it. It tended to hang up and not spring back in place when released, now it does. It just needed some 'work in'.
I put some Rosewood grips on it that I bought from Amazon for $40, they fit great and look much better. For the money, I was surprised how nice they are. My new 9mm now operates and feels awesome. Bullseyes all day with a 6 o'clock hold. It's not a S&W or Ruger, but it works for me. I wanted a 9mm revolver without moon clips and that's what I got.

Let me know how you do.
 
Yes. While I was waiting for Carter to return my emails, I did some detective work of my own. I noticed my front sight was very high and went right to a point, a perfect triangle shape. I looked on the charter Arms web site at the product pictures and noticed the front sites of the 9mm Pitbulls were not that high but machined off to only half the height of mine, not a triangle shape. Charter did call me back and said to send it in or if I felt comfortable enough, I could grind down the front sight myself and not void the warranty. I asked him if they possibly skipped a step during manufacturing to mill down the front sight and he said "maybe". Long story short, I used a metal grinding disk to take off half the front sight and then finished it off with a small file to remove burrs and smooth the surface. It came out great. I can now hit bullseyes at 25 yards with 147 grain bullets. Compare your gun with the product pictures on Charter's website to see if you have the same problem. Don't take off too much at once if you opt to do it yourself. Baby steps.
Also, I did have a few lite strikes right out of the box with cheap ammo. After I shot it, cleaned it, oiled it, and shot it again, I did not have any more problems. I learned the trigger springs come in 2 versions. Blue springs are standard, and green springs are heavier duty. I took off my grips and I have the green spring, but still no more lite strikes after some use and good cleaning. During cleaning, hold down the trigger and exercise the hammer really well to work it in.
I also exercised the heck out of the shell ejection rod while cleaning it. It tended to hang up and not spring back in place when released, now it does. It just needed some 'work in'.
I put some Rosewood grips on it that I bought from Amazon for $40, they fit great and look much better. For the money, I was surprised how nice they are. My new 9mm now operates and feels awesome. Bullseyes all day with a 6 o'clock hold. It's not a S&W or Ruger, but it works for me. I wanted a 9mm revolver without moon clips and that's what I got.

Let me know how you do.
Finished product after grinding off the point from the front sight and adding grips.
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Yes. While I was waiting for Carter to return my emails, I did some detective work of my own. I noticed my front sight was very high and went right to a point, a perfect triangle shape. I looked on the charter Arms web site at the product pictures and noticed the front sites of the 9mm Pitbulls were not that high but machined off to only half the height of mine, not a triangle shape. Charter did call me back and said to send it in or if I felt comfortable enough, I could grind down the front sight myself and not void the warranty. I asked him if they possibly skipped a step during manufacturing to mill down the front sight and he said "maybe". Long story short, I used a metal grinding disk to take off half the front sight and then finished it off with a small file to remove burrs and smooth the surface. It came out great. I can now hit bullseyes at 25 yards with 147 grain bullets. Compare your gun with the product pictures on Charter's website to see if you have the same problem. Don't take off too much at once if you opt to do it yourself. Baby steps.
Also, I did have a few lite strikes right out of the box with cheap ammo. After I shot it, cleaned it, oiled it, and shot it again, I did not have any more problems. I learned the trigger springs come in 2 versions. Blue springs are standard, and green springs are heavier duty. I took off my grips and I have the green spring, but still no more lite strikes after some use and good cleaning. During cleaning, hold down the trigger and exercise the hammer really well to work it in.
I also exercised the heck out of the shell ejection rod while cleaning it. It tended to hang up and not spring back in place when released, now it does. It just needed some 'work in'.
I put some Rosewood grips on it that I bought from Amazon for $40, they fit great and look much better. For the money, I was surprised how nice they are. My new 9mm now operates and feels awesome. Bullseyes all day with a 6 o'clock hold. It's not a S&W or Ruger, but it works for me. I wanted a 9mm revolver without moon clips and that's what I got.

Let me know how you do.
Wow.. great to know.. ill check mine out.

What u think? I might send it in because the cylinder hangs up sometimes. I do have smith and ruger revolvers but like this 2 1/2" size plus is a good looking piece. .. Thanks for the info 👍🏻 .
 

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Yours looks sweet.. like the grips . you did a good job on the sights.
Thanks. Yeah, your sight looks too high also. If you look at the CA website pictures, only the 45 ACP has the entire sight that high. The .40 and 9mm are shorter like they were milled off according to what caliber the barrel was drilled out to. If you don't want to do it yourself, send it in. I think CA has great warranty and customer service, it's just a pain and takes a couple months from what I hear.
For the cylinder problem, I had trouble too. My issue was the screw at the back of the frame (center), that releases the cylinder when the cylinder release button is pushed forward. I screwed that out many times flush with the frame, and it always managed to screw itself back in after opening and closing several times. I took that screw all the way out and put a dab of locktite 242 (blue stuff) and replaced it to a depth flush with the frame. Then let it sit for 24 hours before opening the cylinder again. When you cock the hammer back, you can see that screw from the thread side
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