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Cutting a frame for a Nowlin ramped barrel DIY

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#1 · (Edited)
It seems like a difficult process to install a Nowlin ramped barrel in a frame.

There is a tricky sounding cut done horizontally to the barrel, using an extended milling bit.

I have read that several people on this forum have done it with flex shaft/dremel and needle files, but from what I've seen they all had Springfields or something with a preexisting cut to copy dimensions on.

Questions.

Can someone point me to a tutorial on how it's done properly.(milled)?

How tight should the support fit the cut out?

If I mess it up, could I fix it with an EGW feed ramp insert?

Is there a product similar to the EGW feed ramp insert for ramped barrels yet?


If anyone has first hand experience cutting for Nowlin ramp with hand tools, please explain your process, and in what order you made your cuts. And what was the most trick y bit (did you screw up at any point )?

What is the "going rate" to have a gunsmith do the installation.


I'm doing a 9mm card splitter build, and I want to get this right.



Looks like just hogging out a square to me, and then chamfering the edges. Any reason not to use a scribe to mark it up, get out the sharp calipers, and go real slow, checking all the time? If it's just a question of time, I'd rather do it myself. Probably a 20 min process on a mill, or a 5 hour one with flex shaft and files, I'm estimating.


Maybe it's time I get a "hobbyist" mini mill. Modifications to a drill press (swapped spindle bearings for ones without side play, and chucks, were unsatisfactory. Missed the deadline for taking machinist classes at my local community college, kicking myself for that. Maybe I can still get squeezed in, one of my friends from glass blowing school teaches one of the programs, I'll have to look him up.



According to forum rules/etiquette, it's better to start a new thread rather than grave dig something older than a few months, is that correct?
 
#3 · (Edited)
Doing frame work on a mini mill is very difficult due to the fixturing needed to support the frame and the length of some of the tools needed. In many cases, mini mills don't have enough Z travel.

Here's a tutorial I did about machining the Nowlin frame cut.

https://www.1911addicts.com/threads/how-to-modify-your-frame-for-a-ramped-barrel.22519/

Don't do it with files. It's basic machining at best. As you probably know, the time spent on machining is spent on measuring and fixturing. The actual cut takes a minute. The set up is key. If you aren't comfortable doing it after you read the tutorial, it's about 250 bucks labor to machine and fit a ramped barrel.
 
#5 ·
That sounds like the way to go, lots of stuff can be done with simple tools, but if I can find a proper smith to do that job for less than 100 it will be worth more than the hassle. Seems like it needs to be precise, and it's in a tricky spot.
 
#9 ·
Some things I've noticed about your posts has me a little worried. You're asking about building a ramped barrel frame with hand tools in this thread and using a cracked slide in another. Are you sure you don't need to do a little more studying before you go forward?

The best way to succeed in a project is to see it through ahead of time. I'm saying this with the best intentions in mind. Have you thought this through?
 
#11 ·
DIY W/N ramp cut.....

I made a Wilson/Nowlin ramp cut on a Colt single stack frame. I used a hacksaw and files. I used the measurements from an STI frame, and matched that to the single stack. I left the ramp cut a little undersized so I could file the edges back a bit and keep them straight. The W/N ramp cut worked fine, and I fitted a W/N ramped .38 super barrel to a 9mm/.38super Commander length slide. I now use this gun as my everyday concealed carry gun. It is very reliable, very accurate, and I use very powerful +P+ .38 super JHP loads!
To tame the slide velocity, I had to use a 25# mainspring and a 16# Commander length recoil spring.

A showed the end result of my carry gun to a professional gun smith friend of mine. He asked how I was able to cut the W/N ramp cut....I smiled and replied, "Carefully!"