😆 Damn, I hate corroded green cartridge loops!

 

It doesn't matter much, if any, if you can't get the stuff anyway.

 

It sort of reminds me of the emperor's new clothes.

 

Always question the nickel-plated brass , the reason behind it thought is was just shinny! Now know.
Haven't reloaded any nickel- plated before have a few. Heard said not to reload them? TRUE / FALSE

 

I reload them all the time.

 

You can reload them, the issue is that they don't last as long (as many reloads) as plain brass. After a a number of times (depending on charge) they will crack - either at the mouth or along the length - earlier than the plain brass. I had a bunch in .45 Colt from back in the early '90s. Nearly all finally gave up the ghost. The brass ones have lasted much longer.

 

I had this same issue in .45 Colt.

 

I have had no issues reloading them.

 

So they will be cheaper right? LOL

 

If not, maybe they should drop the “Critical” from the name.

 

Doing the right thing didn't know?
Kimber 10 MM, sig 380, and another Smith and Wesson 5906!

 

Roll crimping wipes them out very quickly.
Sure is purdy, but cracks appear very soon.

 

Hot 357 ruined so many, I got used to pulling them out of the tumbler and listening to the sound difference when I tapped the media out of them.

 

Check out ammo seek Hornady 9mm Luger Ammo handgun 124 grains critical defense They don't always have them listed, but keep checking periodically and they pop up from time to time. I just finally got my hands on the Critical Duty +P rounds that I've had on backorder from optics planet since last December using this site.

 

If that's the worst thing that happens to me today I'm ok.

 

Are you referring to buying ammo from Optics Planet?😆😆

 

I have a stash of 9mm 115 Critical defense for the sig, and a stash of .45 Winchester White Box 230 jhp for the 1911.

For target / shtf scenarios, I have plenty of ball. I'm not going to waste SD ammo on paper* or shtf. I must have 5x in ball than I do in jhp.

*JHP on paper: For me occasionally, to see if the guns still like to feed it, and I can still hit with it

I posted the original link simply to show that transportation-tier issues are hurting everyone, not just lumber. This also tells me Hornady isnt plating their own shells, they're having someone else do it.

Both my SD loads show up in ammoseek from time to time - at prices far more ridiculous than the already-inflated pre-rona prices. Boy howdy Hornady is proud of this ammo! I think i was paying 80¢/rd for these before 'rona.

 

From experience making custom Harley springer front ends out of 4140 and having them chromed, Hydrogen Embrittelment is most likey the cause of nickel plated cases cracking early on. Even with proper heat treating of the brass cases, plated cases just do not last very long, especially at the crimp area.

Considering that most of us shoot FMJ in brass cases for range/practice and save the spendy stuff for carry, we really don't amass much in the way of plated cases, at least I don't, and that's a good thing.

 

First thought was it had something to do with EPA and the cost of plating waste disposal. But transportation problems seem to be the cause of most consumer product shortages today.

 

At this point, it all depends on which materials are coming from where.

 

All my materials are coming out of storage containers, a few feet from the bench... supply chain is smooth and efficient over here! The warehouse looks pretty good too! 🤣

 

Same here flechero. We need to start cleaning cases so we can reload the .223 ammo shot over the last three weeks of prairie doggin'. Actually, the reloading is mostly done during the winter months; the vibrator runs anytime.

 

You are right Nitro. We have friends who moaned during the shortages of the Clinton years and the Obama years and they are the ones moaning now.

 

I like to rub in the bounty that we experienced during the first three years of Trump and ask what rock they were under. It is quite incredible that any loader was complaining about supply shortages at the beginning of 2020!

 

I hear ya, but I'd rather remind than rub-in. Because the drought gets worse each time around.

The ammo shortage was soft but expensive during the economic panic in 2008-2009. Then it got better.

The ammo shortage intensified in 2013 after Sandy Hook. Then after a year or year-and-a-half, it got much better for a very long time, especially after Trump was elected. For a year or two, they couldn't hardly give ammo away, regardless of commodity inflation.

Then in 2020, Covid, social unrest, and the election all hit at once. Everyone that didn't have a gun went out and bought one. And then they realized they didn't have enough ammo.

This is the worst ammo shortage and pricing environment I've ever seen or heard of, but it's getting better. If there is a demand, capitalism will supply it. It's just gonna take a while and cost a little more going forward. I see ammo for sale now that I haven't seen in over a year, but I still wouldn't pay these prices if I didn't have to.

I hope the new gun owners won't forget this era because they were the primary cause of the shortages. And when things do get back to normalish, buy a little at a time so that you don't have to freak out like all the folks that simultaneously shat their pants and all the sudden couldn't find enough TP