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Hot Ejected Brass - is there a fire risk in woods?

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#1 · (Edited)
So, we've all been hit by ejected cartridge cases. They are initially hot, and can burn. I am wondering, are they fire-starting risk if shooting in the woods?
Maybe this is a foolish question, but I have only ever shot my 1911 (or other semi-autos) at indoor ranges. There was no local outdoor one that allowed cartridge pistols. The black powder club is only for round ball, and the local county range (both of these are outdoor) is long guns only.
However, I recently acquired some land and while waiting to build a house have been shooting my cap and ball revolvers on it. I also shot my cartridge revolvers on it. But neither of these eject cases. Given that the ground is covered with leaves, pine needles, etc. (it is heavily wooded), I am wondering if I could shoot my 1911 there or is there a risk of the cases causing a forest fire?

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but if anyone knows, I'd appreciate it. As I never had a chance to shoot a semi outdoors in the woods before, this is all new to me.

(Obviously this will be a non issue when the house is built, I will have grass, or the shooting area where I stand will be gravel or swept dirt).

Picking up my very first Colt 1911 today (to complement my RIA 9mm it is in .45 the OG caliber) so hoping to shoot it :)
 
#8 ·
I would say keep an eye on your brass. Story time.

I was shooting my 22 at an indoor range. Surrounded by concrete, one would think no risk of fire, right? Well...

It had a failure to eject, likely due to the round being fairly low power. It likes higher power .22 rounds, not so much low power blazer stuff. So I immediately racked the slide and kicked out the empty case. Which flipped end over end into a pile of other cases on the opposite side of the shooting bench. Which also had unburned powder from all of those cases. Which caught fire from what I suspect was an ember left smoldering in that .22 LR case.

Can it happen? Yes. Will it? Probably a once in a lifetime event.

Just keep an eye on your brass pile for anything smoldering.
 
#16 ·
Some indoor ranges have a clip-on garment that they require cleavage-baring female shooters to wear when they rent a lane. It's not being sexist... a shooting newbie surprised by a hot case going down her front can cause a deadly accident with the loaded gun that's still in her hand.

Anyway, in early July there was a small forest fire at the local shooting hole I often go to. Naturally shooters were blamed for it. The hippies who showed up on July 4th weekend with illegal fireworks were never considered.
 
#12 ·
I suppose it's possible to happen to somebody, somewhere at some time, but people have been hunting in the woods with all sorts of firearms and calibers for centuries.

I don't recall starting a forest fire with a gun being a regular topic of discussion. Especially, as others have said, since the dawn of self contained cartridges.
 
#13 ·
Don't shoot tracers in dry woods.

I was shooting Highpower Rifle with a Civilian Rifle Club at a National Guard Range, and the area had been in a drought. There was a Guard Unit on the right shooting their 5.56 SAWS fully auto. Really rocking and rolling, looked like fun. Seems they had not told Range Control that they were shooting tracers. Oppsie, Fire Trucks came barreling in!

We civilians were lucky that we and the Nat Guard Unit were still there when the woods caught on fire, as the military Range Control were looking to scapegoat us for the fire. As it was, we were kicked off the range for the day. It is axomatic that negative civilian Chi disturbes harmonious military Feng Shui.
 
#15 ·
Thanks all.
I figured it was probably not a problem, but having been burned by ejected semi auto cases in past I wanted to rule out the concern never having shot a semi auto pistol except at the indoor range.
The brass does cool considerably. I always dump the .38s out of my sixgun into my hand, they are cool to the touch I guess they cool fast.

Never had a prob with black powder either but I usually use light target loads, I could see higher charges sending burning powder downrange.
 
#17 ·
I haven't gave it much concerns until last few weeks. Where I live in South Mississippi we and Louisiana have burn bands. We haven't had rain for a while the temperature has been 100 plus with just a few days under 100. The interstate I10 has been closed because two different fires. Our grass makes sounds when we walk on it.
But our outdoor range has concrete where we shoot so it's a non issue but still checking for brass that might get on the leaves and grass.
I do know that my 10mm will leave burns when my grandson catches them in mid flight 😁 he only caught one.
We also have fire extinguishers at each shooting lanes.

But on regular times non issue it's hot and very dry here.
 
#18 ·