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I Always Thought Amazon Delivery Drivers Were Un-armed

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#1 · (Edited)
I guess not, but after reading this story I can see why they have a policy. A USPS carrier and a Amazon Delivery Driver got into a tiffle... a rather dumb stupid little dispute and the Amazon Driver shot the USPS carrier in the face. In of all places... Washington State where allegedly they are strongly anti-gun and also home of Amazon.

Stupid inidents like this only fuels more anti-gun carry laws and policy.


“USPS workers don’t let people in the area when they have the mailboxes open. The Amazon driver didn’t particularly like that, they got into an argument, which escalated to a shoving match, which escalated to the Amazon driver shooting the USPS guy in the freaking eye!!! Then he sat there calmly and waited for the cops to show up and claimed self defense,” a poster named Rich Ryan said on Facebook.
 
#3 ·
Well below is a more solid source but still relatively similar account of the events described above. It does sound like it was an Amazon delivery guy but I think most of them are 'independant' contractors.

I know from experience that the postal carriers do not like people in and around them when they open up the community postal boxes at apartment buildings or in those housing developments where there is a large central location for mail drop off and pickups. When I had a few rental properties I had a recent vacanted Townhouse and I happen to be at the community at the same time the mail was being delivered. I needed to see if the former tenant had any mail still coming in and when I approached the area the carrier got fairly angry that I was there. Kind of nasty... I asked him how long he would be since I was on a bit of a schedule, and he would not even answer me.

 
#5 ·
I doubt there are more than a handful of corporations in the country that knowingly allow employees to carry firearms. The legal liabilities are too great.

My last 23 years before retirement were for a large woke corporation, and I would most certainly have been fired immediately, had it become known that I carried a concealed firearm daily.
 
#6 ·
One of the many reasons I was self-employed the vast majority of my working life. Even then I had businesses try to restrict my RTKBA. I won’t do any business with any place that restricts my RTKBA. I would not knowingly work for businesses or private individuals who were anti-gun or restricted the right. It cost me some jobs for sure but there was always more work than I could take on. I still don’t like doing the minimal amount of transactions either I or my GF do through them. I won’t go into a PO branch anymore unless I have no other option which is very rare. I think a lot of the Postal employees may be unhappy with things as has been evidenced on a few occasions.
 
#9 ·
Until the end of last year, all Amazon delivery drivers were contractors, not employees. At the end of last there were a couple court cases in a couple states that found Amazon drivers were some kind of employee. I think that's still under appeal.

If the drivers are contract employees driving contractor owned vehicles, I'm not sure Amazon can tell them no firearms just because they have an Amazon sticker on the truck.
 
#10 ·
If the drivers are contract employees driving contractor owned vehicles, I'm not sure Amazon can tell them no firearms just because they have an Amazon sticker on the truck.
They can. If they're contracted under the company, they can impose their own rules as a condition of the contract.

However, that would not apply to individuals who are not drivers (at least in Texas). Employers cannot prohibit their employees from possessing firearms and storing them in their vehicles while they work inside. There are a few exceptions to this (federal property, etc.).
 
#12 ·
A few years ago, some of Amazon’s drivers were actual Amazon W2 employees. However, thats all changed, at least in most places. If they’re in an Amazon vehicle, they’re a 3rd party contractor for Amazon. If they’re using a personal vehicle, they’re independent contractors, used exclusively for overnight/same day/flex delivery, which is mainly jiffy’s (padded envelopes) and some boxes not much bigger than a shoe box.