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Is there a pistol that you just cannot shoot?

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After shooting two IDPA matches with Glock 17s and turning in the worst scores ever, I am coming to the conclusion it is just not a pistol I will ever shoot well. The first match was with a stock Gen 5 Glock 17 and the second match was with a Glock 17 that had an SRO optic and a Johnny Glock duty trigger installed ( 4lb trigger). I did worse with the gussied up Glock ( the second match ) than with the stock Glock. I suspect my hands are two small for the Glock 17. Sorry about that Gaston
So to make myself feel better, I took my Wilson lightweight , full size 1911, 9mm, to the range and had no problems putting the rounds where I wanted them ( at 5 yards, 10 yards, and 14 yards). I think the 1911 is my gun and I will stick with it. It simply fits my hand and has the trigger I need. Next range session will be with my Ruger lightweight commander 9mm.
And yeah I know if I spent a huge amount of time with the Glock, I might master it and learn to shoot it well. The key word is might- as in might not.
So is there a pistol that you simply cannot shoot well?
 
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I've been a LE instructor for nearly 15 years training not only deputies at our sheriff's office but officers from surrounding jurisdictions as well. About 90% of them are shooting Glocks as their primary, and more often than not, their off duty firearms.

The only people I've not been able to become acclimated to effectively shooting a Glock are those that can't shoot anything well and probably don't need to handle firearms in general.

No doubt you already know that Glock makes their guns in numerous calibers and sizes, I personally prefer the G19 or G26 over the G17.
 
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I've been a LE instructor for nearly 15 years training not only deputies at our sheriff's office but officers from surrounding jurisdictions as well. About 90% of them are shooting Glocks as their primary, and more often than not, their off duty firearms.

The only people I've not been able to become acclimated to effectively shooting a Glock are those that can't shoot anything well and probably don't need to handle firearms in general.

No doubt you already know that Glock makes their guns in numerous calibers and sizes, I personally prefer the G19 or G26 over the G17.
Funny you should mention that because my next try will be with an optic equipped, Glock 19 Gen 5 ( stock trigger). I think that will fit my hand much better than the Glock 17. I have friends that prefer the Glock 19.
I have shot many other pistols - just about every maker ( Colt, semi custom 1911s, Walther, Sig, Glocks etc). The first 1911 I was issued was in 1964. I am an old ( and I mean old ) 1911 shooter and just prefer that platform to any other. It just feels right to me. When they retired the 1911 in 1985 that was the same year I retired from the military.
I have been trying a bunch of the plastic fantastics to see if one of them would fit me. The PDP and the PPQ gives lots of muzzle flip, so does the Sig 320 compact, the full size Sig 320 is pretty easy to control though, the Glocks ( of which I have a barrel full) have horrid triggers, and I am going to try the HK VP which I owned and sold and own again. It has always a been a hobby of mine.
My experience has been some people can shoot some pistols well but not others. I am of the opinion that the 1911 is one of the easiest pistols to shoot.
 
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Not to name a particular flavor or brand but when the pistol weights get down to just a few ounces and the barrel lengths to an inch or two the ease of carry (for me anyway) has overcome everything else.
 
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Bisley only helps with recoil. I have medium hands and have several single actions, most Rugers and Uberti. The big Bisley only shoots Ruger only loads, that is 44 mag level but mine is 45 Colt.

The beauty of the single action is you have a very light trigger pull, usually 2.5-3 pounds. I have one at 12 ounces, it is wonderful. The single action is the most accurate handgun you can fire because there is so little movement to make it go boom.

Tip: Hold it in 2 hands. Start with light loads or 22, breath, relax, aim, squeeze, you have heard that before.
 
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Well each platform is different and most can be learned quickly. I do remember shooting a friends Springfield 3.5 xdm ( I think it was) and i was all over the place… now that said I only ran a couple of mags through it and really didn’t give it much time, Probably not something I would own.
 
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The only pistol I’ve come across that I couldn’t shoot was the S&W model 5906. I literally couldn’t pull the trigger fully to the rear because my finger would hit the frame. I had to adjust my grip to get the trigger all the way to the rear.
 
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Yes. As much as I love to shoot my two Single Actions (a Colt and Uberti replica) I just can't hit the broadside of a barn with them. I shoot a wide variety of firearms so it's not like I'm new at this... but something about those guns makes me look like Clint Eastwood's character in Unforgiven.

 
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Any handgun can be shot well, but all handguns are not created equal. Some require tweaks to grip or tweaks to wrist in firing. While you can train to overcome the idiosynchrasies, the question becomes: do you need to? With so many available options today, it's much more practical to find the ones that work best with minimal effort.

Many of today's plastic models require minor adjustments in the hand by virtue of their design, elements that don't impact hammer-fired pistols.

Luckilly for us, there's no reason to settle. If Glocks don't work for you, sidestep them and go with something that does. Fit in the hand is either overlooked or downplayed by many, but it's a very real thing for some in properly choosing a handgun.
 
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I have a slightly different take. I have some modern handguns that all shoot well. As a collector though, I have many WW2 and before military surplus pistols. Some I can shoot well, some I cannot. I think with practice and familiarity, you can train to shoot anything. But as a collector, my goal most range sessions is to hit paper and not damage the gun. Anything else is icing on the cake. I am willing to shoot pretty much everything I have. Except maybe my WW1 Luger. I may not shoot that one because I would be heart broken if I broke it.
 
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All my guns shoot far better than I can. Some fit my hand better than others, some have triggers that just don't work for me. generally, if I run enough rounds through anything, I can find paper. Do some pistole just seem to work well with my hands, my eyes, and my style, yep. 1911s and the SIG P226 come to mind.

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I suppose the closest thing to a gun I 'can't shoot' would be my Taurus 44. But that's more because 44 mag is pricey, so I don't get as much trigger time with it as I might like. I think it is possible to learn to shoot it well. I am not sure it's possible that I can afford the endeavor - but I intend to try.

There are some that I do not perform as well with as others. For example, I can't shoot my CSX as well as my M&P in 9mm. But I don't expect to shoot a 3" pistol as accurately and quickly as a larger gun in the same caliber. My shooting is probably sloppiest with my M&P 40, but still generally good enough to make work.

I think mostly this is because I am a stubborn SOB - if I put out money to acquire a pistol I simply will not accept that I 'just can't shoot it.' If I paid more than $300 for it, and I'm gonna lose more than $100 if I sell it, then I am gonna keep it and come Hell or high water I will learn how to shoot it.

Then there are guns that I cannot stand to shoot. My Hellcat Pro immediately comes to mind. It wears my trigger finger out. I want my carry guns to make my enemies sore, not me. There, I said it. Even with that I can still shoot the center of a target out at 10-15 yards if I put my mind to it.
 
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Funny thing about Glocks... I hate the way they feel, I hate the grip angle, and I hate the trigger. Yet I still shoot them as well as the other similar guns I have that feel much better in the hand. Once you've mastered the basics it shouldn't matter what gun you have in your hand, any more than what vehicle you're driving should affect how well you drive.

I think my issue with the SAAs is that I'm still very new to shooting revolvers and unaccustomed to the way they handle.
 
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The other day I shot a double stack (think it was my cz) after nothing but 1911s and sixguns for a while. My first mag (5 rounds as I was loading it to stretch ammo) was low and to the side, with only a few hits. Yikes! I was ready to throw thing away til I realized what I'd paid for it :) Bad day, I guess. I was better the next day.
 
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Not thrilled with my XD-E .45 3.3” but it’s a good truck gun i picked up cheap. Points as it should, etc. but the jury is still out pending more rounds thru it.

Never liked the crap grip angle and trigger on glocks. Don’t see the point of wasting ammo learning to shoot them just because they’re popular when I have 1911s and other (9mm) stuff I shoot just fine. So yeah… Glocks. Also the last thing I’ve had FTF issues with.
 
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After shooting two IDPA matches with Glock 17s and turning in the worst scores ever, I am coming to the conclusion it is just not a pistol I will ever shoot well. The first match was with a stock Gen 5 Glock 17 and the second match was with a Glock 17 that had an SRO optic and a Johnny Glock duty trigger installed ( 4lb trigger). I did worse with the gussied up Glock ( the second match ) than with the stock Glock. I suspect my hands are two small for the Glock 17.
Just curious how much you've practiced with the optic. Only asking because in December you started a thread on hangdun optics where you said considering all of those things, I have concluded I will keep using my iron sights.
 
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#30 ·
The OP has started a cornucopia of threads here (and at least one other forum) always asking others what they think about something as if he is either a new shooter or lacking any real confidence in his own decision making process regarding handguns. Perhaps it is both. :unsure:
 
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