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Late Remington Rand Type II -DuLite Finish

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6.8K views 12 replies 8 participants last post by  martin08  
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First post on the 1911 Forum, but browsed around a few times. I have a large US Arms collection, but only a couple of 1911s. But maybe it's time to expand?

Anyway, I did buy my first 1911A1 yesterday, and thought you folks might find it interesting. I was helped by some members of my home forum (Gunboards) to nail down some features, and surfed through many threads here to confirm some finer points. So here are some of the specifics:

S.N. 1015336 w/ NO prefix
Type II Slide
Checkered main spring housing, hammer, thumb safety, stamped trigger
Serrated slide stop
Blued HS barrel
Blued recoil spring bushing, plug, guide, bushing, and mag with R-toe
DuLite finish, except parkerized transitional slide stop, mag release, grip safety.
Keyes grips w/o escutcheons
Equal P-stamp on frame and slide
Feedramp, barrel throat, and inside FJA in the white. Hard to tell with ordnance stamp and serial, but look as correct as any.

This seems like a VERY late gun to still have an original DuLite finish, so I'll leave it up to you folks to confirm. Also, would like to know production date if possible.

Only ten pics allowed per post, so I can add more as requested. Thanks for looking.

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#2 · (Edited)
The close up picture of the ordnance stamp I feel like I can see bare metal in the top of the canon on the left and inside the FJA markings. Date would be late 1942 or early 43 but someone else will probably be able to give you a better answer. I’m no expert like some of the guys here but the trigger and slide stop are the only things I have questions on. Not saying they’re wrong by any means but I’m just used to seeing checkered stuff but will defer to an expert as they very well may be correct. Nice pistol
 
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The trigger is checkered. Only the slide stop is serrated.

Here are pics of the proof marks, followed by the parkerized finish on the slide stop, mag release and grip safety. Then pics of matching wear patterns on hammer/frame and barrel/frame. Final pic of feed ramp and chamber end of barrel in the white.

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#8 ·
Congratulations on your acquisition. FWIK Type Two REMRANDs had checkered small parts like Type One but some can be found with grooved parts, and many of them still have Keys stocks without reinforcement rings.
 
#9 ·
I should probably offer a couple of pics in indirect light to highlight a finish feature which doesn't show well in the bright sun.

The slide has a splotchy two-tone finish, with the front portion appearing darker than the rear. This discrepancy is the result of a heat treatment tempering process on the front of the slide to improve wear and deformation characteristics, and affecting deeper color acceptance from the bluing (or parkerization) process.

Collectors will already know about this feature on original finished slides. But for those who are new observers to the WWII era USGI M1911A1, the two-tone finish is a normal aspect of appearance.

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Hello Martin!
welcome to the 1911 boards. I too am new here but know you well over the years from many other boards. Well Done!
you continue to amaze me on the superb pieces you find in all makes and models. I have started to get addicted to the 1911s and have opened up a new area of learning beyond my collection. I guess we will both be seeing each other here now.
Tom
 
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Ah, so that's what the rings on the grips mean. Still learning! Thanks.

Hello Martin!
welcome to the 1911 boards. I too am new here but know you well over the years from many other boards. Well Done!
you continue to amaze me on the superb pieces you find in all makes and models. I have started to get addicted to the 1911s and have opened up a new area of learning beyond my collection. I guess we will both be seeing each other here now.
Tom
Good to see you over here too, Tom. As you can see, I'm clearly stepping out of my comfort zone of military long arms and European pistols. But a WWII-era USGI M1911 was a slot that was way overdue to fill.