The P-F position is that the Glock Gen 3 (off patent) has become generic like 1911 and AR. Lots of small shop knockoffs, now a name gun company.

 

Yeah, at first I was about to chastise Ruger for simply coming out with yet another ripoff of someone else's design (SR1911, LCP, AR556, SR22), but at least this time they seem to improved on it. For the first time in over a decade I might actually be interested in buying another "Glock" pistol.

 

Take a look at the BUL Armory versions.

I am certain I will be adding one of their optics ready models.

 

All we need is another copy with a "great" trigger for people to shoot themselves with. Hammers required is innovation.

I think the multi direct mount is good and Gen 6 could probably use some ergonomic improvements on the lower part of the trigger guard but this is an easy pass for me.

 

I think the multi direct mount is good

I have come to dislike direct slide mounting when compared to quality plate system, with an exception of clamp-styled mounted optics. Screws that come with many optics are thin and of questionable quality. They do break, I've had that happen once. I'd rather not have them break at all but if they did, better inside a removable plate than slide.
This gun doesn't fix what I think needs to be addressed with Glocks so I don't care myself. But at $400 at the release and possible frame options at $40 from Magpul (G26, G17 lengths) it might do well.

 

A Ruger and Magpul marriage which spotlights a removable stainless steel Fire Control Insert and roughly 90% compatibility with Glock Gen 3 parts, magazines, and holsters. Interchangeable Magpul grip modules which cost under $50, it can use a variety of red dot devices with similar footprints. Supposedly has a better trigger than Glocks if you like striker-fired guns. Looks like they put some thought and $$$ into this gun. I won’t be racing out to buy one but at least it is an American gun company producing it.

 

That doesn't look too bad at all - maybe more ergonomic with more room for gloves. But Holy Cow would it be late if it were better

I've been a huge Ruger fan all my life and a huge Magpul fan for the later part of it. I even managed to forgive Ruger for the Klinton years after therapy.

 

I've been a huge Ruger fan all my life and a huge Magpul fan for the later part of it. I even managed to forgive Ruger for the Klinton years after therapy.

 

Beyond Perfection... ?

 

I don’t think they’ll directly compete with Glock. People that want a Glock want a real Glock. Sort of like people that want a Colt want a real Colt, not a Ruger. I think it will compete with the higher end Gucci’s like Zev and Shadow Systems. Also the low end clones like Palmeto.

 

It's more competition for Palmetto given the price point. And that being the case - they better get on top of the frame and slide offerings. The Dagger is up to 5 different styles of slide cut, and 2 frame sizes. People after a Zev or Shadow Systems want a Gucci Glock without buying the base Glock and then replacing everything after having someone shave and texture the frame.

It's probably more for people who already are Ruger fans and toying with the idea of a Glock but haven't pulled the trigger on one (or another of it's clones) yet.

 

More new firearms is good for the American economy.

 

Agreed.

Instead of the BUL “Glock” I bought a Shadow Systems (made in Texas) MR920P. 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

 

They'll sell a ton of these. If I were in the market for plastic fantastic I'd buy one, IF it proves to be accurate and reliable. I can't stand "combat accurate" guns.

 

Hopefully it'll do better than the "Ruger American Pistol". I don't think that one set any sales records.

 

TFB has a more in depth review:

This will take off! However, where Magpul dropped the ball is that they didn't capitalize on the current rage with serious Glock shooters: the thinner grip of the G48/G43X. Magpul, who is now making METAL Sig P320 mags, should have designed an all metal Glock mag a la the aftermarket Shield and Mini Dagger 15 rd. mags and made the grip thinner on this new RXM. They could then have made TWENTY ROUND METAL mags that work in this and also OEM Glocks. They could have laughed all the way to the bank and made everyone happy!

That is the only fault I find.

 

TFB has a more in depth review:

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This will take off! However, where Magpul dropped the ball is that they didn't capitalize on the current rage with serious Glock shooters: the thinner grip of the G48/G43X. Magpul, who is now making METAL Sig P320 mags, should have designed an all metal Glock mag a la the aftermarket Shield and Mini Dagger 15 rd. mags and made the grip thinner on this new RXM. They could then have made TWENTY ROUND METAL mags that work in this and also OEM Glocks. They could have laughed all the way to the bank and made everyone happy!

That is the only fault I find.

I have a bunch of all steel 15 round mags for my Glock 19. Bought them because I had a factory Glock mag split at the top. Also, had one of those 33 round aftermarket Glock 19 mags. I may have been harder on them that city folks who only CCW, but did not like them splitting. And the metal ones fall free much better.


Megar makes them in the 18 round capacity.

 

Well.........seems nice in some ways.

I like the direct mount. I like the chassis. But that grip frame is too small for me. They'll need a G21 frame to entice me. 1911 ergos, are cute for boomers, but CZ and Glock are superior shapes.

While it's cool that Magpul might make multiple grips for it. I ain't holding my breath. Magpul hasn't made their best AR grip, the K2xl, in years.

Dan Wesson also has a nice chassis system. And they've also come out with zero (0), no custom frames for it.

 

Well.........seems nice in some ways.

I like the direct mount. I like the chassis. But that grip frame is too small for me. They'll need a G21 frame to entice me. 1911 ergos, are cute for boomers, but CZ and Glock are superior shapes.

While it's cool that Magpul might make multiple grips for it. I ain't holding my breath. Magpul hasn't made their best AR grip, the K2xl, in years.

Dan Wesson also has a nice chassis system. And they've also come out with zero (0), no custom frames for it.

So you're that one guy whose hand fits the Glock grip!

 

C'mon, man; it's the first week, don't be complaining about a shortage of Stuff.

 

Yeah.

 

What does it do that my Shield Plus with a 15 round mag cant do?

 

OK, full disclosure I'm not a Glock fan boy even though I carried a G22 (40 S&W) for eight years. Sold it the day I retired! I'm also not a "weapons mounted red dot" fan boy either on a self defense pistol.
Ruger already showed that they can build a better "Glock" with their SR9 series. Better ergonomics and the thumb safety are attractive to many female shooters. Ruger blew it when they ceased production, maybe the cost! the quality of the 2 I've owned is stellar!
Rant over!

 

 

Meh. I don’t own any Ruger auto pistols other than the .22LR pistols. This RuGlock isn’t going to change my mind.

 

All glock "copy" pistols have the same grip dimensions and shape as the glock. The glock's blocky grip is always uncomfortable due to the squarish shape of the magazine. Other double stack guns like Smith M&P, Sig, HK all have figured out the grip to make theirs comfortable.

 

All glock "copy" pistols have the same grip dimensions and shape as the glock. The glock's blocky grip is always uncomfortable due to the squarish shape of the magazine. Other double stack guns like Smith M&P, Sig, HK all have figured out the grip to make theirs comfortable.

Ricky, my son's PSA clone Glock 19 "DAGGER" grip is not same as a Glock 19 and fits my hand just fine. The Dagger "compact" model frame fits my hand perfectly. Not a Glock or plastic pistol advocate mostly because Glocks don't fit my hand and been indifferent to Glocks but competition has made changes in frames. Somewhere out there I'm told there is a plastic Glock 19 clone frame with same grip angle and dimensions of the 1911...that is a game changer for me if I can find who makes it.

 

I have come to dislike direct slide mounting when compared to quality plate system, with an exception of clamp-styled mounted optics. Screws that come with many optics are thin and of questionable quality. They do break, I've had that happen once. I'd rather not have them break at all but if they did, better inside a removable plate than slide.
This gun doesn't fix what I think needs to be addressed with Glocks so I don't care myself. But at $400 at the release and possible frame options at $40 from Magpul (G26, G17 lengths) it might do well.

I haven't run into that problem yet but I am not a full blown red dot guy and I am sure you are correct. Seems like larger screws (if they made them...like Gen 6 screws yet to be designed/released) might solve the optic problem on a direct mount and one set of screws vs two and a plate still sounds preferable to me. I guess MOS is even ok now that they make an optic that direct mounts in the MOS cut. I have all RMR Holosuns so that MOS stuff gets thrown in the Glock box.

I'm good with Choice but I can't resist tossing a grenade in this punch bowl...LOL

One could counter that Glock shaped frames are great for cup cakes but won't pass the smell test of men who have experience with Glocks, 1911's SIG, CZ and pick a pistol that is trustworthy, has controls and ergonomics that fit ones hands and is accurate.

Then again, one might just go with the flow of if its not Glock, it just ain't. Same for Rolex ..anyone have one for 30 yrs and still running like my Casio G Shok but of course if its not a Rolex...its just ain't but if its a Tudor, that brand is inconvenient for Rolex owners.

Don't forget if its a HK...well, even the Dan Wesson Mafia here steps back in "Awe".

Back on subject: Its my opinion, a modern pistol is long over due by Ruger and "IF" they've improved upon the Glock platform, good for them and shooters.

Some of us (including myself) need not be old sticks in the mud on progress in handguns and designs emerging.

I am not sure I can decipher all of this but I think I agree with parts of it. I'd say Glock improved on the Gen 3 better than Ruger and Magpul did but if people want the Ruger I am fine with that. People bought the P85 back when they could have had Sig 226s and Beretta 92s so we can do that again. I would be happy if they/anybody finally made a gun that appeased all of the people that hate Glock but pine for the day that Glock will make them a Gen3 with a 1911 grip angle...so I wouldn't have to hear about it any more.

Do you have cupcakes??

All glock "copy" pistols have the same grip dimensions and shape as the glock. The glock's blocky grip is always uncomfortable due to the squarish shape of the magazine. Other double stack guns like Smith M&P, Sig, HK all have figured out the grip to make theirs comfortable.

Perfectly comfortable to me, I like it, except the square trigger guard on my knuckle sometimes.

 

I under cut the trigger guard.

My Glock grips are all rounded. No idea where the blocky bit came from.


Maybe some people have curved bones in their fingers? But my middle segment is straight. And lines up with the front strap fine.

 

Ruger P series, MK I II sure. But this thing ain’t no Glock. No just no.

 

The market chases the $$. However, let us not forget that Gaston is gone and perhaps under control now of his young widow there will be Earth shattering changes come SHOT Show 2025. As an example, Ruger really opened up the floodgates when ol' Bill passed on.

 

Another plastic 9mm pistol.

 

I think with the last few chassis guns that combine that and the direct multi optic mounts, we are getting close to the pinnacle of what a modern poly gun can be.
I am not a Ruger fan at all, but I still preordered one of these just for the hell it. I think these will sell well enough for the most part, but I can also see people just buying them for the lower control group and magpul frame for other builds.

 

I think with the last few chassis guns that combine that and the direct multi optic mounts, we are getting close to the pinnacle of what a modern poly gun can be....

People tend to forget that the firearm is merely a delivery platform, a 'launchpad' actually with the bullet being the 'missile'. That said, the modern smokeless powder metallic cartridge is essentially the same since the French 8mm Lebel of the 1880's with just a few metallurgical & chemical tweaks along the way. Nothing remarkable has happened really outside of the caseless ammo breakthrough of the 1980's that died a political death.